The Danish Mohammed cartoons
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GreatBriton @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:09 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Here are the British fighting a war against terror, but then what do the Danes do? They go and ruin everything by publishing these photos. If Denmark is hit by suicide bombers like London was, we'll be saying: "Haha! Told you so!" There is a war on terror but then the Danes DELIBERATELY insult Muslims worldwide by publishing these cartoons. Cheers, guys!
I can imagine what would happen if the Houses of Parliament are bombed - the firemen are doing all they can to put the fire out, whilst a group of Danes are throwing petrol bombs at it.
That's a good way of describing it.
I can imagine what would happen if the Houses of Parliament are bombed - the firemen are doing all they can to put the fire out, whilst a group of Danes are throwing petrol bombs at it.
That's a good way of describing it.
Why bother fighting the war against the terrorists in Iraq if you're just going to surrender to them at home?
How are the British surrendering to these Muslims? The problem they have now is with Denmark mainly. We didn't publish the cartoons so no Muslim is blaming us for these cartoons. Can't you see that?
I can't remember Muslims saying anything bad about Denmark before. No-one burned their embassies and burned their flag. Why couldn't they keep it like that? In this case, it was the Danes who were the antagonizers and the troublemakers, not Muslims.
maritimematt @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:09 pm
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Wullu Wullu:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Here are the British fighting a war against terror, but then what do the Danes do? They go and ruin everything by publishing these photos. If Denmark is hit by suicide bombers like London was, we'll be saying: "Haha! Told you so!" There is a war on terror but then the Danes DELIBERATELY insult Muslims worldwide by publishing these cartoons. Cheers, guys!
I can imagine what would happen if the Houses of Parliament are bombed - the firemen are doing all they can to put the fire out, whilst a group of Danes are throwing petrol bombs at it.
That's a good way of describing it.
I can imagine what would happen if the Houses of Parliament are bombed - the firemen are doing all they can to put the fire out, whilst a group of Danes are throwing petrol bombs at it.
That's a good way of describing it.
Make up your mind GB. On the one hand you say you want the UK to hide behind the channel and not get involved ( can we call you Chamberlin? ) and on the other hand you are espousing (sic) the UK's involvement abroad in the fight on terror. The Danes have taken a stand. Will you?
I never said we won't get involved in the war against terror. I said we won't get involved in having our embassy firebombed and our goods boycotted just for publishing a cartoon. I'd rather we'd not publish the cartoons and then we'll be okay, won't we?
And how are the Danes "taking a stand"? Taking a stand against WHAT? Muslims probably had nothing against Denmark until these cartoons were published. The Danes deliberately provoked a hostile reaction. And for what? For no reason as far as I can tell.
Now, with their embassies being attacked and their flags being burned and with Danes probably having to be careful anytime they go near a Muslim they are probably regretting publishing those cartoons.
When there is a war against Islamic terror, making Muslims angry is NOT a good idea. Wouldn't it cause MORE hatred and terror?
What do Danish firemen use to fight fires? Gasoline?!
Well, British Muslims are very uncomfortable with British troops being in Afghanistan and in Iraq, so I suppose that the British media had better stop running ANY stories about our troops on active service. Oh, and they'd better stop running any stories involving Tony Blair (who is apparently an enemy of Islam). And the British media had better stop running any story featuring pictures of women with any part of their body exposed (because such pictures annoy certain strands of Muslim opinion.)
I'm certainly not looking forward to reading the two page newspapers I have delivered tomorrow morning.
Mustang1 @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:10 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Here are the British fighting a war against terror, but then what do the Danes do? They go and ruin everything by publishing these photos. If Denmark is hit by suicide bombers like London was, we'll be saying: "Haha! Told you so!" There is a war on terror but then the Danes DELIBERATELY insult Muslims worldwide by publishing these cartoons. Cheers, guys!
I can imagine what would happen if the Houses of Parliament are bombed - the firemen are doing all they can to put the fire out, whilst a group of Danes are throwing petrol bombs at it.
That's a good way of describing it.
I can imagine what would happen if the Houses of Parliament are bombed - the firemen are doing all they can to put the fire out, whilst a group of Danes are throwing petrol bombs at it.
That's a good way of describing it.
Why bother fighting the war against the terrorists in Iraq if you're just going to surrender to them at home?
Agreed. The West can’t be conciliatory and appease other cultures on our most basic and defining characteristics. You can’t bow down to the fanatics simply because they might do something violent – history has proven that this kind of thinking only invites more of the same behaviour while simultaneously eroding the very foundation that makes Western Civilization great.
GB can take the Munich approach, but I won’t support censoring freedom of expression simply because it offends fanatics.
Chris_Brown @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:13 pm
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
I never said we won't get involved in the war against terror. I said we won't get involved in having our embassy firebombed and our goods boycotted just for publishing a cartoon. I'd rather we'd not publish the cartoons and then we'll be okay, won't we?
So you are saying that the government should take away the cartoonist's right to free speech, to satisfy the demands of terrorists?
You, sir, are a spineless coward, and you have done nothing to deserve the rights and privileges accorded to a citizen of the UK.
GreatBriton @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:13 pm
We haven't had Muslims burning out flag because of the page 3 girls, have we?
Muslims might not like females humans to show their flesh, but we don't have Page 3 to DELIBERATELY ANTAGONIZE Muslims, do we? The Sun doesn't say: "We'll print this picture of a naked woman just to annoy Muslims worldwide and have our embassy forebombed AND PUT BRITISH PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST IN DANGER", does it?
Unlike Denmark, which published those cartoons to make Muslims hate Denmark when they used to have nothing against Danes.
DerbyX @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:14 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
If the Care Bears are telling you it's your mission in life to please them by killing everyone who doesn't worship them then, yeah, I'm going to Hollywood to hunt down some producers/creators after I get done with you.
Do you want some more passages from Deuteronomy? It's the crazy people who follow that shit (shit being the Bible and the Koran) blindly without thinking, not rational people. Muslims have their suicide bombers and terrorists, Christians have their Phineas Priests and Christian Knights of the KKK.
You and Derby are drinking the same Kool Aid lately, aren't you?
So what have the Phineas Priests and the KKK done in the last decade?
Hmmm?
Where exactly was kool-aid used to poison children and be whom?
A Xtian religous commune you say?
Blue_Nose speaks about the literal interpretation of faith that is most violent when done so. Just because Xtianity has a lot less violent extremeists doesn't mean the faith itself isn't violent.
South Africa was ruled with the worst aparteid in modern history and they were a bastion of European Xtianity.
Canada, the US. and especially Australia used to take the children of its native peoples in order to "de-savage" them and guess what? It was done almost entirely be religious indoctrination by people who didn't care about educating them mearly converting them.
Xtianity is no shining example of freedom around the world. They are responsible for the destruction of countless other faiths and beliefs and far more then you are willing to admit.
GreatBriton @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:16 pm
Chris_Brown Chris_Brown:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
I never said we won't get involved in the war against terror. I said we won't get involved in having our embassy firebombed and our goods boycotted just for publishing a cartoon. I'd rather we'd not publish the cartoons and then we'll be okay, won't we?
So you are saying that the government should take away the cartoonist's right to free speech, to satisfy the demands of terrorists?
You, sir, are a spineless coward, and you have done nothing to deserve the rights and privileges accorded to a citizen of the UK.
Free-speech is one thing.
Using free-speech to antognize innocent people around the world is another.
How am I spineless? I support the War on Terror, and that's why I'm AGAINST the publishing of the cartoons. How can we STOP Islamic terrorism and hatred of the West when the Danes are causing MORE Islamic violence and hatred towards the West? I'm sure both Bush and Blair and pissed about these cartoons. It's not helping them stop Islamic terrorism, is it?
Chris_Brown @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:17 pm
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
I can't remember Muslims saying anything bad about Denmark before. No-one burned their embassies and burned their flag. Why couldn't they keep it like that? In this case, it was the Danes who were the antagonizers and the troublemakers, not Muslims.
You STILL don't get it.
The Danes who made those cartoons had a RIGHT to publish them. It's called Free Speech, look it up sometime.
GreatBriton @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:18 pm
We're trying to STOP Islamic violence towards the West, whereas these cartoons CAUSE Islamic violence towards the West, and people here support the publishing of these cartoons?
Are you for the War on Terror or against it?
Chris_Brown @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:18 pm
DerbyX DerbyX:
Where exactly was kool-aid used to poison children and be whom?
A Xtian religous commune you say?
A Xtian religous commune you say?
Wrong. It was Jonestown, dipshit.
maritimematt @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:19 pm
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
We haven't had Muslims burning out flag because of the page 3 girls, have we?
Muslims might not like females humans to show their flesh, but we don't have Page 3 to DELIBERATELY ANTAGONIZE Muslims, do we? The Sun doesn't say: "We'll print this picture of a naked woman just to annoy Muslims worldwide and have our embassy forebombed AND PUT BRITISH PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST IN DANGER", does it?
Unlike Denmark, which published those cartoons to make Muslims hate Denmark when they used to have nothing against Danes.
Muslims might not like females humans to show their flesh, but we don't have Page 3 to DELIBERATELY ANTAGONIZE Muslims, do we? The Sun doesn't say: "We'll print this picture of a naked woman just to annoy Muslims worldwide and have our embassy forebombed AND PUT BRITISH PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST IN DANGER", does it?
Unlike Denmark, which published those cartoons to make Muslims hate Denmark when they used to have nothing against Danes.
The Danes have apologised for the offence caused to Muslims. They refuse to apologise for living in a country where the press has freedom to print such material. Further, the Danish government refuses to penalise the newspapers concerned. That is the sort of guts that the UK should be backing. If we don't, then it won't be long before we find editorial lines in our newspapers being dictated by religious pedagogues.
GreatBriton @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:20 pm
Chris_Brown Chris_Brown:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
I can't remember Muslims saying anything bad about Denmark before. No-one burned their embassies and burned their flag. Why couldn't they keep it like that? In this case, it was the Danes who were the antagonizers and the troublemakers, not Muslims.
You STILL don't get it.
The Danes who made those cartoons had a RIGHT to publish them. It's called Free Speech, look it up sometime.
But does that mean that it was good for them to cause more Islamic hatred towards the West when the West (or some of it) is trying to stop Islamic hatred towards the West?
DerbyX @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:21 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Here are the British fighting a war against terror, but then what do the Danes do? They go and ruin everything by publishing these photos. If Denmark is hit by suicide bombers like London was, we'll be saying: "Haha! Told you so!" There is a war on terror but then the Danes DELIBERATELY insult Muslims worldwide by publishing these cartoons. Cheers, guys!
I can imagine what would happen if the Houses of Parliament are bombed - the firemen are doing all they can to put the fire out, whilst a group of Danes are throwing petrol bombs at it.
That's a good way of describing it.
I can imagine what would happen if the Houses of Parliament are bombed - the firemen are doing all they can to put the fire out, whilst a group of Danes are throwing petrol bombs at it.
That's a good way of describing it.
Why bother fighting the war against the terrorists in Iraq if you're just going to surrender to them at home?
Well Bart.
Since you are fighting the war against islam what exactly are you acomplishing in Iraq? Iraq under saddam was certainly no radical islamic state. Iraq before US invasion wasn't linked to the 9/11 terrorists, that was Saudi Arabia and you yourself said we liberated Kuwait and gave it back to the radical islamic elements. Iraq seems to be voting in a radical islamic and the US isn't actually fighting the religion just the people fighting for their country.
What exactly are you going to accomplish in Iraq except giving the next generation of islamic terrorists bomb making experience and ensuring that tthey allgrow up hating the US and wanting revenge.
GreatBriton @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:24 pm
And the British Government is not alone in the attack against the publishing of these cartoons. We have the Americans on our side -
$1:
The Foreign Office's private view is that the decisions to publish elsewhere in Europe verge on Islamophobia. Mr Straw's comments were later echoed by the US government, which described the cartoons as "offensive to the beliefs of Muslims" and criticised the European press. A US state department spokeswoman, Janelle Hironimus, said: "Inciting religious or ethnic hatred in this manner is not acceptable."
The Guardian.
The Guardian.
Which is no surpise. The British and Americans are fighting a War on Terror. The last thing they need is some little European country f**king everything us by making Muslims hate us even more.
Chris_Brown @ Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:24 pm
GreatBriton GreatBriton:
Free-speech is one thing.
Using free-speech to antognize innocent people around the world is another.
Using free-speech to antognize innocent people around the world is another.
No, it's all the same.
Denmark is not ruled by sharia law. Danes have a RIGHT to publish offensive cartoons. This RIGHT does not go away when some imam 3000 miles away gets pissed off. Denmark's equivalent of the State Dept does not censor domestic publications, nor should it.
Residents of middle eastern shitholes have a RIGHT to act like civilized human beings when they see said cartoons. But of course, as the violent smelly penis-wiping brutes they are, they won't choose to exercise this right.
I didn't see any "innocent people" on CNN this morning burning up the Danish embassy. They looked like your typical violent, out-of-control, hate-filled muslims.
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