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Back on topic, well sorta. I am still wondering what 40,000 Canadians are doing in Lebanon. I would be surprised if there were 40,000 Canadians in the US right now ( January through March sure ).

   

Pop down to your nearest british embassy/consulate and ask to do so.

   

Probably wouldn't have been, certainly, if it were on hand then yes, it would be immensely useful. But the things tend to move at ~20 knots tops, and would probably be in or near one of our two bases. So, in the end it probably wouldn't get there.

The only reason the US gator got there was because they were over near Jordan.

   

Actually we did. During meetings which lead to Confederation the following names were proposed for the new country.

From Wikipedia

"While the provinces' delegates spent little time, if any, in settling on 'Canada' as the name for the new country, others proposed a variety of other names:

* Albion
* Albionoria — "Albion of the north"
* Borealia – from 'borealis', the Latin word for 'northern'; compare with
Australia
* Cabotia – in honour of Italian explorer John Cabot, who explored the
eastern coast of Canada for England
* Colonia
* Efisga — an acronym of "English, French, Irish, Scottish, German,
Aboriginal"
* Hochelega – an old name for Montreal
* Laurentia
* Mesopelagia — "land between the seas"
* Norland
* Superior
* Tuponia — derived from 'The United Provinces of North America'
* Ursalia — "place of bears"
* Vesperia — "land of the evening star"
* Victorialand – in honour of Queen Victoria

Walter Bagehot of The Economist newspaper in London argued that the new nation should be called 'Northland' or 'Anglia' instead of Canada. On these names, the statesman Thomas D'Arcy McGee commented, "Now I would ask any honourable member of the House how he would feel if he woke up some fine morning and found himself, instead of a Canadian, a Tuponian or a Hochelegander?""

MacDonald himself favoured the name "Kingdom of Canada".

Anywho, just a point of order.

   

I would like to but in here.

Dual Citizens are not disloyal unless they do something to deserve this label.

I am in the process of registering my British citizenship.

But to me as long as I live in Canada, Canada comes first.

If I live in Britain, I will be a Briton first Canadian second.

I think that we should prioritize it so that Canadians resident in Canada get out first.

If you hold a dual-citizenship with another country and you are living there then I think you should take a backseat as you are not actively Canadian. Canada can not interfere with you if you are in another country where you are a citizen indicating that by law you are a citizen of that country first then of Canada.

Has anyone checked to make sure these dual citizens may be wanted by the Lebanese for assistance or service?

also rennouncing British citizenship is not that easy. the rennounciation has to get to the Home Secertary himself and then be signed off on. I am not sure if it has to be in person, its been a while since i was on the british citizenship website.

   

It is not my intention to offend but the concept of dual citizen is anathematic to the principles of nationalism. If you are a Canadian but maintain British citizenship out of heritage, convenience or whatever, you can never be truly Canadian since plurality of citizenship implies total allegiance to neither. Now many will rightly argue that they are completely committed to one but not the other, however, as the latest example in Lebanon illustrates, this tends to be largely 'lip service' when push comes to shove. Further, at least one of the two (or three) countries must suffer the humility of a citizen who implies devotion but refuses to commit.

   

Oh yeah, like that scary "Osama Cam Wooley" guy. What's up with him? Terrorizing all those speeders and unsafe vehicles on Hwy 400 every long weekend.

Bastard!

   

You raise a good point. And I say that as a dual citizenship holder. How can we expect someone to be a "loyal Canadian" if they also swear allegiance to another flag?

And in an increasingly hostile world, this question is beginning to take on even more relevance. For instance, if we were to invade Iran, what would we do about the thousands of Iranian dual citizens living in Canada? Is it accurate or fair to expect them to automatically be loyal to Canada?

I enjoy having dual citizenship. It's enriched my life immensely, and I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

But in principle, I have a problem with the concept.

   

Oh yeah, just look at how heavy handed they've been with the native protestors in Caledonia.

The OPP has been so oppressive and "violent" that a local citizen's coalition is demanding the OPP Commissioner be replaced because of their lack of action in the face of acts of lawlessness.

   

Actually I contacted the High Commission in Ottawa.
I was advised that a British Citizen born in the UK cannot in the UK's eyes, renounce their citizenship.
Whether you have a UK passport or not, you are considered a UK citizen until you die or an Act of Parliament strips a person of citizen for a serious indictable offence against the state such as treason.

I'll just leave it at not renewing my passport or driving licence. It appears all I can do beside commit treason. I'll leave that kind of conduct for those who support Hezbollah.

Reading the news papers and watching TV there is a few more people who are questioning the "citizens of convenience" who expect Canada to extract them at the drop of a hat, all 50,000 'tourists'.

Is that the best you apologists for terrorists can do? Demand I renounce my citizenship?

I committed the big taboo in Canada, questioning our lax immigration and citizenship program. Ooooeeer......that bad eyebrock!

I can't believe some of you people think its ok for plastic Canadians, many of whom claimed refugee status to get in here, to praise Hezbollah and demand a country they don't even live in to get them out when the shit hits the fan.

I even saw that Liberal MP Jim Karygiannis was questioning the fact that families were split up because citizens got priority over landed immigrants.

So they bloody well should. Maybe the landed immigrants should have stayed the 3 years and completed the very hard 20 question tick test.

Keep on cheering the terrorists guys.

   

That would make sense Hamiltonguy.

Those Canadian citizens who actually LIVE in Canada should be at the head of the queue.

I kind of agree with MCB, despite being a UK citizen as well as Canadian, I feel much more affinity to this country. Maybe something could be built into the Citizenship Act that ensures you can only hold Canadian citizenship?

I know some Euro countries deem you to have renounced your citizenship if you gain citizenship in another country. The UK doesn't because of it's colonial background methinks.

Canada doesn't have an Empire so I think it would be right to make new citizens take the loyalty test, you want to be a Canadian? Your old passport is now useless and your country of birth has stripped you of citizenship.

Sign me up!

PS I'm still waiting for Streaker to advise me the "shame and dishonour" that Brits have caused in Canada.
Worse than publically supporting a terror group? Must be really bad!

   

Listening to the news and these refugees FROM A WAR ZONE bitch and moan about their free trip, they definately must be Canadians. No one can bitch and moan like a Canadian.
Unbelieveable!

I'm sure that the majority are gratefull to get out of there but the press is focussing only on the whiners.

   

Oh I'd like to see the proof on this one.......but you never back up your arguments do you? What's up, bus ride getting you down?

   

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