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Awww, cmon if we didn't have the Hitler Youth where would we recruit our Popes from.

Becks a complete asshole who's entertainment value is dropping faster than a teflon turd down a trapless toilet, even with the right wing. For a start Glen doesn't seem to understand Euroweenie culture.

From what I can gather all the political parties have little outing like this where it's all fun and games in the forest interspersed with a healthy dose of politics.

It's guess it's kinda like having the youth wings or our political parties go to summer camp rather than have them hold stuffy, boring, old fake party leadership rallies or whatever the hell they do.

Either way, Beck's lack of understaning and compassion for these kids is really quite disturbing.

   

It's a touchy comparison, whenever you use the nazis as a comparison. We had one retard here who once said NATO forces in Afghanistan were no different than Nazi troops occupying France. It was given an all around condemnation too. You have to consider the source. Beck is an idiot who behaves the way you expect an idiot to behave... unfortunately he has access to the media.

   

I'm not smirking or smiling to any degree. This assertion is as much "post-objective" stereotyping as anything I've said, especially if you're lumping me and Bart and Beck and Breivik under the same broad stereotype.

Beck made a lousy comparison. I can see how Beck might compare one political youth group to another, but there are a half-dozen important ways in which that comparison is ridiculous and playing the Godwin card is a dink move. But, to be precise, he didn't compare them to Hitler, but to a youth group created by him for which membership was mandatory for several years. Nazis oppressed Germans, too, remember. That's as significant a distinction as the one you extracted from Bart about Beck. You're guilty of the same crimes you accused Bart of.

I'm getting sick of your tying every statement by every right-winger as part of a universal trend of societal decay. I think the Tea Party movement brought a lot of people into political debates who are amateurs at logic and research, and Beck is profiting as a figurehead of that shift. That means there are more irrational statements in the debate than before, but it does not mean society is in freefall and we have become post-Revolutionary France, abandoning logic in favor of Napoleon's dictatorship. Your cries that logic is dead and the sky is falling are not well-founded, and when you blame it on right-wingers it rightly pisses me off.

Yes, Beck is nothing worth seeing. His commentary on issues of political significance deserves less attention than that of virtually anyone else. By making everything he says a point of discussion, you give him the attention that perpetuates his fame and audience. Society is better off when Beck is ignored.

   

"The division was called "The Baby Division" by the Allies, there was also a suggestion that a milk bottle would be a suitable insignia."


"Many of the recruits were so young that they were supplied with sweets instead of the standard tobacco and alcohol ration."
Meyer, Kurt (2001). Grenadiers. JJ Fedorowicz Publishing LTD. p. 218.

"The shocking fanaticism and reckless bravery of the Hitler Youth in battle astounded the British and Canadians who fought them. They sprang like wolves against tanks. If they were encircled or outnumbered, they fought-on until there were no survivors. Young boys, years away from their first shave, had to be shot dead by Allied soldiers, old enough, in some cases, to be their fathers."
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/h ... ldiers.htm

And there are SEVERAL accounts of Allied forces meeting up with armed and uniformed German children. Not 12th SS but kids nonetheless.

   

Turning a blind eye is moral cowardice.

   

Boycotts aren't "turning a blind eye." I'm advising the world not to buy what he's selling. He gets ad revenue every time there's a controversy like this. Don't play along and he won't.

   

Boycotting is turning a blind eye. Sorry, you're inactions don't translate into some kind of heroic action here.

   

I'm not claiming heroism, I'm claiming your approach is enabling.

   

Beck should be protested against until he's taken off the air. It's the only just solution to the pure unfiltered moral vileness that he exudes.

That anyone anywhere would ever defend Beck on any of the distortions and delusions he propagates shows just how far rational discourse and basic civic decency have fallen.

   

Thanos, a protest would increase his popularity and cement his position, not undermine it. It would prove his conspiracy theories to his followers and reinforce his status.

Why is it that I, the right-winger, seem to be the only one who isn't watching Beck's every move? Why are the left-wingers who hate him providing him his facade of relevance?

   

Silence in the face of grotesque ideological demagoguery equals consent. And what's right to do or to say and what's wrong to do or to say never changes. Always been this way, always will. The number of American conservatives that are willing to stand up to the rotten likes of Beck, Limbaugh, FOX, or Palin could get together to have a dance on the head of a pin, and there'd still be more than enough room for others to join in. And that in and of itself is the greatest of shames for your country right now.

   

Everyone throws a fit about what right-wing talk radio hosts say, and they have tens of millions of listeners (for some of them, each). Nobody particularly cared what left-wing talk radio hosts said, and Air America filed Chapter 7. Which method works?

Beck is a professional forum troll. Every time you take his bait, he makes a bucket of money.

   

Quantity doesn't equal quality. And I'd certainly like to think that the vast majority of normal and decent people still agree that "more money" doesn't equal "better person". In the specifically perverse example of American rightwing pundits and media hacks I'd say that I'm fairly safe in stating that a very large percentage of them, and definitely the majority of them, are just really lousy human beings. And whatever charities they may privately contribute to certainly does not negate to the incredible amount of damage that they keep doing on a daily basis to American civility and to rational political discourse. You can't let something contiuously pump such pure poison and toxic waste into American life and then not expect it to have some massively negative, and potentially lethal, consequences eventually erupt.

   

I'm not arguing right-wing pundits are better people; quite the opposite. But you subsidize their crappy behavior when you take their bait. Knock it off!

   

Don't think so chief. They're a threat and they have to be confronted and fought right down to the bitter end.

   

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