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so now you suggest people who block roads should be shot

   

Of all of the "posts" in this section, I've noticed "Poor Caledonians...who's shootin' those "squatters?" Who's really the squatters here... not the Native people because it is THEIR land.

In my opinion, non-natives should be required to take a History lesson from the elders of Six Nations.... schools don't serve Native history justice... it's out of textbooks, written by non-natives.

I agree that violence is never the answer

I've read in one forum where Henco didn't know that they were buying Native land... which is INCORRECT because Caledonia, as a city, has been in the court system since 1992 regarding the land claims. If Henco really did a search on the land title, then they would have noticed "Oh, it's in the court system, we better not touch that.".

There is a LOT that people aren't seeing on t.v., or reading in the newspapers ... it's only the violence they see....

If you're backed in a corner, are you not going to fight for what you strongly believe in too??

   

Excellent. (click on the picture...)

   

No, I didn't, you complete and utter fucktard.

I clearly stated that terrorizing people in their homes and destroying their property is justification for shooting brigands in a growing number of states in the USA. It's called "Castle Doctrine".

If the drunkards are wandering off the reservation and blocking roads then that is properly a matter for the police.

But what in hell gives these bastards license to terrorize people in their homes and destroy property?

I don't give a good goddamn whatever has happened to the Natives in the past, it does not give them a freaking permit to act like savages in the present.

"Savages."

Imagine that. Our ancestors used to call them that and now here they are putting the truth to the name.

They have the courts, they can raise the money and buy land themselves, they can lobby the government. But when they start terrorizing people's familes they've gone too far.

How would the Natives like it if they received the same treatment they're dishing out, hmmm?

   

Really? Because you make a hypocrite out of yourself all on the same post.



Gee. Violence is never the answer...but if you're 'backed into a corner', oh, well, that's different.

You've been schooled so please go away now. Thank you.

   

I see someone's PMSing, why don't you try some muslim baiting that usually cheers you up

   

In his defence you did take something totally out of context and made it seem like he advocated protesters being shot.

   

Well in the context of some people on this message board that wouldn't be unusual

   

I don't discriminate. I hate terrorists no matter what race, religion, nationality, or creed they may harbor.

   

righto, so you hated the Irgun and Stern Gang then

   

What exactly is "THEIR" land?

Six Nations? Caledonia Town Centre? Hamilton? Toronto? Vancouver?

If you start from the assumption that "All white people are "squatters" on "native land"", as you seem to be suggesting, then where do we stop?

By logical extension then, no property owner in Canada can confidently claim to own his own home. No developer can ever put a shovel in the ground and be sure it won't become part of a land claim.

And in the end, the whole system breaks down.



The Hennings bought the land in 1991. So your own argument negates your point.

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Many abortion opponents "strongly" believe that abortion is the outright murder of babies on an industrial scale. Does that give them the right to shoot abortion doctors?

Many Americans believe the millions of Mexican illegals who congregate on street corners looking for work in America's towns and cities are invaders. Does that give them the right to shoot or beat them?

Tom Cruise "strongly" believes that psychiatry is akin to witchcraft. Does that give him the right burn down psychiatry offices?

In a civilized society, we adhere to the rule of law. Arguing otherwise is to argue in favour of anarchy.

   

Right, and we all want the rest of the world to become like the USA, because that would set all the world's wrongs to right, where democracy and freedom can reign...

   

Well put Derby.

   

Donny, you've just provided an argument against the kind of action that the Mowhawk protestors have engaged in.

This is a country of laws. At OKA, the natives refused to obey those laws. The result was that the surrounding communities, with their lives disrupted by the Mowhawk actions, became resentful and bitter. Sooner or later, they decided that if the authorities won't enforce the law, then they'll take it upon themselves to do so. The result was the attack launched by townspeople on Mowhawks at Chateauguay.

You can't really blame them either. After all, the Natives had already set the precedent for lawless behaviour.

Last night, we saw that kind of menatality begin to take hold in Caledonia.

If you're going to declare that you don't recognize the law. If you're going to act outside of it and essentially declare war on your neighbours, then don't be surprised when your neighbours do the same.

The Mowhawk should just be thankful the OPP was there to keep them safe. First Nations people are a minority, and as such, they aren't likely to end up on the winning side when that kind of anarchy begins to unfold.

This is why we have laws and expect ALL people to follow them.

   

Yes. Just because they're Jewish and just because there was a Holocaust does not give the Jews any sort of special permit to commit acts of terror. Oh, and the proper name is the Lohamei Herut Israel. The Stern Gang is just what they were called in the media. It made them sound much more criminal than calling them the "Lehi" Freedom Fighters.



Oh, but looky here, the media now-a-days calls terrorists 'insurgents' and 'freedom fighters' to make them sound less criminal.

Makes you wonder just whose side the media is on.

   

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