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Here's my quote. "If you shoot an innocent man, you are committing murder. But killing a terrorist who hasn't blown up his bomb, killing a man before he commits a rape, is not murder, it's more than justified."

I never said before he does ANYTHING. I said before he commits the rape. Come on, couldn't you just assume I didn't mean the time he accidentally bumped into you on the street using my other example?

   

A crime not yet committed is no reason for capital punishment.


(OMG, I sound like Benoit! )

   

That could be said for a lot of situations. In a take down, cops don't wait till the criminal starts shooting hostages, they hit the guy before he can shoot them.

   

When the cops are there, usually a crime has been committed...

(again! )

   

If there is a perceived threat, they have committed a crime.

   

Thank you Tricks. Conspiracy to commit murder is still a crime. Attempted rape, foiled before any penetration, is still a crime, etc etc.

   

Yes, but NOT a reason for capital punishment.

   

Its not punishment. Its defense. A soldier isn't punishing the other side when he shoots his gun, he's acting as a defender of his nation, its people, etc etc etc. I'm not punishing a guy who's breaking into my house, I'm defending my house from the guy

   

You could have locked it

Seriously, let me rephrase. The crimes that you say, are imo no reason for the deathpenalty.

And, it is not up to you to judge that. We have laws for that, and judges and juries. Killing a burgler because he might steal your flatscreen and your laptop are no reason for the deathpenalty.

That better?

   

Still, it is up to the judge to decide if it was justified...


I am absolutely not saying you can't defend yourself, but killing somebody before you can prove you are on a deaththreat, is just not so smart, and you might end up in jail yourself...

   

   

yes, I get that... but there is no way of proving if you killed the guy and he didn't get the chance to committ his crime, right?

   

Has anybody heard the out come of this case?

Intruder killed in foiled home invasion
Published: Thursday, January 03, 2008

CALGARY - A man and woman lay sleeping in bed when two intruders forced their way into the couple's rented Alberta farmhouse Thursday.It was around 3:30 a.m. local time when the attackers broke in through a side door in the home about 20 kilometres east of Calgary.
Following a fight in the bedroom, one man - one of the intruders - lay dead, while his accomplice fled the scene with serious stab wounds.
The home's 35-year-old occupant was slightly injured, while his 24-year-old girlfriend was unhurt.
The two parties knew each other - though RCMP aren't saying how.
But investigators say the deadly home invasion leaves many questions unanswered.
"It is an unusual case. It doesn't happen very often. To have a deceased person, a home invasion where an attacker ends up deceased, is pretty rare," said RCMP Const. Patty Neely.
One of the biggest hurdles investigators face is determining what charges to lay - and who will be charged, she said.
"It is a homicide; (the intruder) didn't die accidentally. Whether or not it's murder isn't clear."
Gang and drug ties have been ruled out as motives in the case, said Neely, and no one involved is a "well-known, hardened criminal," she said.
She couldn't say if the intruders brandished any weapons when they entered the couple's bedroom.
The 35-year-old occupant called police around 3:30 a.m. local time to say two men had broken into his house. One was wounded, he said, while the other fled the scene.
By the time RCMP arrived, the 32-year-old intruder had died on scene.
His 27-year-old partner fled the scene with severe stab wounds. He later turned up at Strathmore hospital, about 50 kilometres east of Calgary. He was then taken to Calgary for treatment, Neely said.
An autopsy is scheduled for today to determine the cause of death of the 32-year-old, who is from the Strathmore area.

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How are you gonna do that if you are not hurt? Who decides that? The minute I smack my ex hubby upside the head with a heavy baking pan, I am the one causing the grievous bodily harm... And I don;t think the fact he was in my house with a registered gun on his body is enough reason... And if there is nobody to back up my story, where will it leave me?

I hope in jail, because my killing him was not necessary, and murder, imho..

(lucky for me, I am not a judge or jury )

Anyway, we are going far off the original post now I just don't think the deathpenalty (especially without a trial) is supposed to be accepted...

   

It's not capital punishment. Capital punishment is handed out from a jury and judge in a courtroom.

   

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