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Blue_Nose @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:59 pm

xerxes xerxes:
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
westmanguy westmanguy:
64% of Americans do not believe in Evolution. 60% believe in Creationism.

WE ARE THE MAJORITY.
Weak :lol:

What does America have to do with this museum, anyway, Mr. Statistician?


Well, a bigger, more full of crap museum like the one in Alberta opened in Kentucky a few weeks a go. That colossal insult to a person's intelligence cost $27 million.
I'd definately go to a $27M museum created by a former Universal Studios exhibit director...

   



GerryHurt @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:03 pm

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
xerxes xerxes:
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
westmanguy westmanguy:
64% of Americans do not believe in Evolution. 60% believe in Creationism.

WE ARE THE MAJORITY.
Weak :lol:

What does America have to do with this museum, anyway, Mr. Statistician?


Well, a bigger, more full of crap museum like the one in Alberta opened in Kentucky a few weeks a go. That colossal insult to a person's intelligence cost $27 million.
I'd definately go to a $27M museum created by a former Universal Studios exhibit director...




ROFLMFAO :roll:

   



ShepherdsDog @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:34 pm

ziggy ziggy:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
I doubt very much that there will be any of the public schools planning a feild trip to this new "museum". As such the only people that will be going will be those that are curious, and those that already believe in creationism.

So why anyone that doesn't believe in the bibles version of how everything got here would be up tight about this place opening is beyond me.


Maybe....those of you that have objected the most....... really don't have that much faith in your scientific research and feel more than a little intimidated by those that have faith in their own beliefs.
do you think the earth is only 6000 years old Gerry?


The Rum 'n' Catholic Church doesn't even believe in the 6000 year old Earth myth. There are quite a few people who are practicing Christians who believe whole heartedly in the theory of evolution and that the Universe began some 12 - 15 billion years ago. The only difference between their beliefs and that of hard core atheists, is that all the events from the Big Bang to now, were guided/intended by a pre existing creative intelligence. Be it God, or the Great Overlords of Zorlon.....all fall down and grovel in their august presence.

   



Blue_Nose @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:45 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
The only difference between their beliefs and that of hard core atheists, is that all the events from the Big Bang to now, were guided/intended by a pre existing creative intelligence. Be it God, or the Great Overlords of Zorlon.....all fall down and grovel in their august presence.
Which really isn't a big deal at the end of the day - creating reasons for why events occur is one thing, but trying to pretend they didn't occur at all is another.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:51 pm

The Big Bang and 'Let there be Light' are pretty similar descriptions of the Universe's creation.

   



Arctic_Menace @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:30 pm

God said let there be light.










Vin Diesel flipped the switch.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:33 pm

see, a man is to blame for that too.

   



Arctic_Menace @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:38 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
see, a man is to blame for that too.


ROTFL



Careful now, or we'll be labelled sexist pigs. :wink:

   



ShepherdsDog @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:40 pm

oink

   



hurley_108 @ Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:30 pm

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
God said let there be light.










Vin Diesel flipped the switch.


Gonna hafta go ahead and disagree with you there. Yea.


It was Chuck Norris, actually. And then he roundhoused God into a black hole.

   



DerbyX @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:56 am

clogeroo clogeroo:
Yes it would. Would it bother you if a church decided to launch a human rights complaint that the B.C. ministry of education is not teaching religious tolerance and religious studies?


They do teach religious tolerance and all they are teaching here is tolerance and understanding that homosexuality isn't wrong.

They don't need to teach religious studies because thats what churches are for. Would all you Xtians demanding the teaching of religion in school agree if they taught all religions and not just yours?

$1:
Sounds like an agenda to me.
Sounds like evening the playing field to me.

$1:
This homosexual teacher decided to file a complaint and the government caved and now we are bringing people's bedrooms back into the state. Not only that but people’s children will be forced to learn about it even against their own will apparently. It is also biased because it sounds like it only wants to teach positively about homosexuality and not the negative points of this lifestyle. If this isn’t a homosexual agenda I don’t know what is.


This is just an example of teaching positive outlooks of homosexuals. They certainly do teach positively about "straight" families and associated values, our entire culture is geared towards it.

   



sandorski @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:58 am

hurley_108 hurley_108:
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
God said let there be light.










Vin Diesel flipped the switch.


Gonna hafta go ahead and disagree with you there. Yea.


It was Chuck Norris, actually. And then he roundhoused God into a black hole.


HA!

There is no God, MacGuyver created light from a few household items and a shoestring. Chuck Norris saw this, then bowed down to MacGuyver and called him "God".

Yup, that's right, Religion is Chuck Norris's fault.

   



Clogeroo @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:30 pm

$1:
They do teach religious tolerance and all they are teaching here is tolerance and understanding that homosexuality isn't wrong.

That is an opinion not a fact. Teachers shouldn't be teaching people their views and values on subjects and neither should the government. By saying homosexually isn't wrong you are saying it is right and when you force students to "learn" that it is right then you are more or less putting your beliefs on others and not allowing critical thought which I find appalling. Forcing people to learn views against their own will is more along the lines of what you would see in a totalitarian state not an open democracy like ours.

Also we were never taught religion in school so not sure where you are getting this from? The only time God was mentioned was in God Save the Queen and O Canada. We were never taught that Christians are right or “not wrong” as you would call it and we didn’t learn anything about what they do or about any religion or any minority group. We had no need to centre the education system around focusing on the differences between every person out there.

$1:
This is just an example of teaching positive outlooks of homosexuals. They certainly do teach positively about "straight" families and associated values, our entire culture is geared towards it.

Bollocks. They don't send home you a pamphlet underlining the perfect family compact or this is what a preferable family does. “Straight families” were not mentioned they kept it general as a family. We didn’t need to point out every different type of family or culture going on out there nor tell people what is right about them or what is wrong or even what they all do.

We didn't spend classes learning than Timmy has a mother and a father while Billy has two father's either. The school system didn't waste our time and just taught us actual knowledgeable things such as learning to read, write, and do mathematics as well as observe the world around using the scientific method. This is what schools should be teaching not telling you how to think and act. The only thing we were taught that remotely compares to these homosexual studies was sexual education. But this was voluntarily and not forced on you if you were not comfortable being there. Also they just told you what your bits were they didn’t tell you how to use them or what people do with them.

Lastly no parents are even pushing for this or the people of British Columbia the only people that are pushing this forward are the homosexuals and some thought controlling teachers much like you. So I’m not sure why we are even getting something that was never asked for, voted on, or even wanted.

   



DerbyX @ Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:35 am

$1:
That is an opinion not a fact. Teachers shouldn't be teaching people their views and values on subjects and neither should the government. By saying homosexually isn't wrong you are saying it is right and when you force students to "learn" that it is right then you are more or less putting your beliefs on others and not allowing critical thought which I find appalling. Forcing people to learn views against their own will is more along the lines of what you would see in a totalitarian state not an open democracy like ours.


Grow up. Teaching kids that homosexuality isn't wrong isn't any different then teaching kids that religion isn't wrong which is entirely what they do

What they don't want and what should/is banned is teaching kids a particular religion is right/correct and all the other ones are wrong.

BTW, yes by teaching kids that homosexual lifestyles aren't wrong they are indeed teaching them its right and that is entirely fair. Its no different then teaching them that being black or chinese or whatever is perfectly OK too.

$1:
Also we were never taught religion in school so not sure where you are getting this from? The only time God was mentioned was in God Save the Queen and O Canada. We were never taught that Christians are right or “not wrong” as you would call it and we didn’t learn anything about what they do or about any religion or any minority group. We had no need to centre the education system around focusing on the differences between every person out there.


First off we certainly did have religious studies in school and in it they taught specific articles of Xtian faith. This was the norm since your religions inception up until sanity took over.

Regardless, children may not be taught that a particular faith is correct but they are certainly taught that its OK to belong to a faith be it catholic, muslim, buddhist, etc"

They are certainly taught to be tolerant of people who hold a different set of religious beliefs (or none) and so they should be taught that people with a different sexual orientation should be treated the same.

If your particular faith says that a certain group of people are evil then too bad. You can always re-indoctrinate your children when you force them to go to church. Until then the school is exactly the place for this to happen especially when little johnny tells his classmates that he lives with his "2 moms".

$1:
Bollocks. They don't send home you a pamphlet underlining the perfect family compact or this is what a preferable family does. “Straight families” were not mentioned they kept it general as a family. We didn’t need to point out every different type of family or culture going on out there nor tell people what is right about them or what is wrong or even what they all do.


:roll: Straight families are the norm. Its the not so normal that kids need to be explained about. Teachers face this all the time. Given the likliehood of a classroom having a child with perhaps an affliction that sets them apart or requires very special requirements the teachers will almost always explain to the kids why the new boy can't go and play in the sun like everybody else or why he walks funny. Explaining to the kids that just because little johnny lives with "2 moms" doesn't make him a freak or evil and they also expalin (in child-friendly terms) why its perfectly OK to come from such a family.

$1:
We didn't spend classes learning than Timmy has a mother and a father while Billy has two father's either.


Perhaps you didn't have a boy in your class with that experience. Perhaps your teachers were as narrow-minded as you are.

$1:
Lastly no parents are even pushing for this or the people of British Columbia the only people that are pushing this forward are the homosexuals and some thought controlling teachers much like you. So I’m not sure why we are even getting something that was never asked for, voted on, or even wanted.


I suggest you take a good look throughout history and see how and why the various social changes came about.

   



2Cdo @ Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:08 am

DerbyX DerbyX:

First off we certainly did have religious studies in school and in it they taught specific articles of Xtian faith. This was the norm since your religions inception up until sanity took over.



Predictably Derby wades in with an anti-Christian slur. :roll: Funny how you seem to see fit to ridicule Christianity but other faiths don't get near the hateful rhetoric. :roll:

   



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