Canada Kicks Ass
Creationism museum to open in Alberta

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grainfedprairieboy @ Tue May 29, 2007 9:48 pm

Source

Anyone know the town?

   



GerryHurt @ Tue May 29, 2007 9:56 pm

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
Source

Anyone know the town?




http://www.villagebigvalley.ca/bv_info/ ... are_we.htm

   



canucker @ Tue May 29, 2007 9:58 pm

It's historically and scientifically incorrect. I wouldn't go.

   



grainfedprairieboy @ Tue May 29, 2007 10:06 pm

canucker canucker:
It's historically and scientifically incorrect. I wouldn't go.


No harm in visiting. The Gopher Museum in Torrington is not historically or scientifically correct either but I never pass up an opportunity to stop by each summer.

   



Alta_redneck @ Tue May 29, 2007 10:15 pm

Here's a atricle a little closer to home from the Red Deer paper. And website if you missed it.
www.bvcsm.com

Creationism and evolution will square off again when Canada’s first creation museum opens its doors in June.

The Big Valley Creation Science Museum is filled with displays of fossils and model DNA strands supporting a literal interpretation of the Bible, and opposing evolution.

“When you look at it you can see which faith fits the facts, because both sides are faiths,” said Harry Nibourg, the owner of the museum.

Nibourg said he became interested in creationism after watching videos and reading books on the subject.

“I looked deeper, read the books and evolution didn’t make sense to me, it didn’t answer the questions I was asking.

“It didn’t satisfy my curiosity for knowledge,” he said.

Four years ago, he had the idea to open a museum after watching Vance Nelson, the owner of Canada’s largest travelling creation museum, give a speech.

It took a while and cost about $300,000 to build, but Nibourg will finally get to reveal his own creation this summer.

The museum is filled with displays of fossils, models and busts of dinosaurs with titles like Evidence From Plants, Terrible Lizards, and Fossils and the Flood.

Also featured are interactive bacterial flagellum and DNA displays.

“Both provide compelling evidence for creation and refute any unguided, ‘natural’ processes such as evolution,” according to the museum website.

Ian Juby, owner of Canada’s first travelling creation museum, bought the first bacterial flagellum model, which was built by Nelson.

Hired as a consultant to the museum, Juby created displays with the assistance of the Creation Research Society, an organization of scientists and citizens committed to the idea of scientific creation.

Nibourg estimates that if the society had charged for its help, the project’s budget would have been well over $1 million.

“They were an essential part of the whole process,” said Juby.

Juby said although the museum has detractors and critics, many people change their minds after seeing it for themselves.

“A lot of people made a judgment call without even seeing the museum. They’re saying there’s no science in there, but that’s what the vast majority of it is. It is radically different from what people expect when they show up,” he said.

He also mentioned new helium-diffusion method of dating minerals, which he says supports the theory that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

“It’s not the majority of people, it’s the majority of a closed group of scientists who are detractors. Most people believe in a creator, a God who created us,” he said.

“Without having been there and without seeing it, I don’t want to criticize,” said Andrew Newman, a paleontologist and acting director at the Royal Tyrrell Museum in Drumheller.

“I’m not sure that there is as much focus on science as there is on theology in this museum. I don’t know what kind of scientific approach info they have to evaluate it,” he said.

Nibourg insists that his museum is based more on science than theology, and mentioned that there are more scientific theories than Bible references in the displays. He said he has offered to debate many scientists in Alberta and across Canada, but most have refused his request.

“They got the right to be wrong. We will scientifically debate anyone, we would love to debate Dr. David Suzuki on The Nature of Things, no problem. They don’t have a leg to stand on and they’re hoping to evolve one,” he said.

The museum will open on June 5 in Big Valley, with a grand opening scheduled for July 7. Visit www.bvcsm.com for more information.

Contact Paige Aarhus at [email protected]

   



toothpick @ Tue May 29, 2007 10:25 pm

They're opening a museum of outmoded thought featuring the remains of extinct animals.

Hey, at least there's symmetry.

   



sandorski @ Tue May 29, 2007 10:28 pm

$300,000 wasted

   



xerxes @ Wed May 30, 2007 5:46 pm

There's also a big one that opened in Kentucky last week as well. That's a $27 million joke right there.

   



fire_i @ Wed May 30, 2007 6:08 pm

Eh, I'm alright with diverging opinions I guess. I hope people who enter that museum don't take everything that's said for cash, but then again, who knows, maybe creationnists are actually the ones to be right.

Unbelievably highly unlikely, and I certainly don't think so, but it's not impossible.

   



grainfedprairieboy @ Wed May 30, 2007 7:24 pm

sandorski sandorski:
$300,000 wasted


I disagree.

From what I understand he paid for the whole thing pretty much himself with a few bucks donated by some other folk.

It is impossible to waste your own money, only other peoples.

   



toothpick @ Wed May 30, 2007 9:19 pm

sandorski sandorski:
$300,000 wasted


Not to the economy. The only wasted money in a free market is money that goes unspent or uninvested (which is just another way of saying 'unspent'). Moving money is productive money.

   



hurley_108 @ Wed May 30, 2007 9:26 pm

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
canucker canucker:
It's historically and scientifically incorrect. I wouldn't go.


No harm in visiting. The Gopher Museum in Torrington is not historically or scientifically correct either but I never pass up an opportunity to stop by each summer.


No harm in visiting if you already know it's all utter bunk. If you don't, you'll come away with a head full of lies.

   



grainfedprairieboy @ Wed May 30, 2007 9:34 pm

hurley_108 hurley_108:
No harm in visiting if you already know it's all utter bunk. If you don't, you'll come away with a head full of lies.


Should read the sign over the NDP head quarters if truth in advertising laws were actually enforced.

   



hurley_108 @ Wed May 30, 2007 9:57 pm

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
hurley_108 hurley_108:
No harm in visiting if you already know it's all utter bunk. If you don't, you'll come away with a head full of lies.


Should read the sign over the NDP head quarters if truth in advertising laws were actually enforced.


If TIA laws were enforced, these would be the signs:

Over the Conservative HQ: We're just like the Liberals, but we talk about democracy and accountability.
Over the Liberal HQ: We're just like the Conservatives, but we talk about health care and the Environment.
Over the NDP HQ: We used to be about the working man, but now we're about extremist minority rights and ant-americanism.
Over the Bloc HQ: We only think we're relevant.

But seriously, this "museum" will provide nothing to society. This is a house of negative intelligence and anti-fact. This "museum" will do more harm than good, as there is no good that can possbly come from it.

   



sandorski @ Wed May 30, 2007 10:09 pm

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:
sandorski sandorski:
$300,000 wasted


I disagree.

From what I understand he paid for the whole thing pretty much himself with a few bucks donated by some other folk.

It is impossible to waste your own money, only other peoples.


Oh, he wasted his money alright. He just may not realize it. :)

   



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