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Won't someone please think of the poor, maligned, oppressed Christians?

   

Funny how you guys are only upset about anti-Xtian slurs and not slurs against anyone elses relgion/faith or politiical leanings.

Funny how I am pointing out the truth that Xtian doctrine teaching was the norm in our schools until we realized that teaching a single faith only wasn't fair hence the sanity taking over.

Its amazing how you guys take even the slightest possible negative comment about Xtianity as a "slur" yet feel its perfectly OK to viciously attack anothers beliefs.

If I ever truly attacked Xtianity in the same way that homosexuality/muslims/Liberals/liberals/easterners you would truly know it.

   

Homosexuality is generally considered abnormal behavior both throughout history and certainly in almost every one of the 300 odd countries on the earth today. You may consider the lifestyle normal, practice it vigorously and chose to advocate it over the choice of heterosexuality but the simple reality is, outside of sourthern Ontario you are in the minority.

As for Muslims. There are serious issue connected with a religion that instigates or champions almost all terrorist attacks today. Aside from that obvious issue there is a clash of civilisations occurring globally as Islam finds its place. There is not a single country on the planet that claims to be Christian that executes homosexuals. Homosexuality can only flourish in Christian states. There are also other human rights issues that are generally dismissed by your crowd.

Liberals suck plain and simple. Their ideology is directly responsible for every known issue confronting Canada today.

Easterners. Quit being such a typical whiny easterner.

   

People thought the earth was flat for most of recorded history also. People used to believe the sun was a firery chariot being driven across the sky.

People learn. Attitudes change except in the stubbornly ignorant.



Just because homosexuals aren't executed by you guys anymore doesn't mean you aren't oppressing them.

Homosexuality can flourish in tolerant places not in Xtian ones as its Xtians forming the bulk of the people attacking it.



We made Canada what it is today far more then you Cons ever will.



Case in fucking point. You kick and scream and spend almost all your time here bitching about the east then cry whenever you perceive its done to you.

You have alot of growing up to do.

BTW, that anger you are feeling. Think about it the next time you start a thread laughing at some financial misfortune of Ontario or launching yet another thread bitching about Toronto and wonder if that isn't pissing us off.

   

I guess that depends on how you choose to define "terrorist attacks".

   

Really? I would have put the moron majority at at least 95%.

   

Now there you go again.

Everybody who does not advocate homosexuality and ignore the societal and health costs is a bigot, blah blah, Christians are bad anybody who is not an atheist is an extremist blah blah, if you oppose immigration it's only because you're a racist, whine moan everything must be centralised in Eastern Canada blah blah if it's good for Toronto then it has to be good for Saskatoon, blah blah liberals can do no wrong blah blah etc etc.

You know, there's a support group for folk with your kind of problem.....we call it Ontario.

   

I think the argument boils down to: it's not up to anyone to "advocate". If it doesn't concern you, don't concern yourself with it.

Do I find the idea of fucking a guy revolting? Yes. Do I have gay friends? Yes.



I think this is debatable. If gays are really dying 20-30 years younger, that is leaving a lot of money on the table in our pension plans as well as a decreased cost of having to treat all kinds of old people and their broken hips (and expensive meds).

   

Now That the great power outage is over .....

Its honestly both pathetic and comical that you responded this way. It truly illustrates your darker qualities.

1) It isn't about who "advocates" homosexuality but who doesn't understand that its a perfectly OK lifestyle to pursue.

*** You don't have to like it just realize that its not wrong for others to. ***

You talk about being a "red-blooded beaver loving redneck" so I gather you are quite familiar with the girl on girl action. In fact I bet there is next to no "straight porn" videos out there that don't feature "lesbian" scenes for 1/2 the film. If you aren't secure in your masculinity enough to tolerate man on man action even in existence then the problem lies with you and not them.

2) "society costs" are tied to bigotry and we faced the same debate over mixed religion and mixed race couples. Easily overcome with education.

3) Healthcosts --- I showed you have no case there and even if you are correct that "they" die 20 years younger then straights then the healthcost is eliminated when pension is taken into account.

3a) I already told you that diabetes cost way way more and quite frankly so does cancer and heart disorders. You are wrong. Núff Said.

4) Xtians aren't bad but their faith certainly is and it shows whenever its taken literally. Religion has a great deal of positive influences on people but that is all lost the moment they start imposing it on others. Like fire & water, religion makes a good servant and a bad master.

5) I don't say anybody who isn't an Atheist is an extremist. Never have and never will.

6) Oppose immigration????? Where the fuck were you when I was saying I have no problem with the US and Canada imposing whatever restrictions we want on imigration. It is our right as soverign countries to set whatever limits we feel is warranted inany given situation. In fact a principle stance of mine is get the fuck out of muslim lands and just simply close our borders to them until they learn to accept the beliefs of others. I've never once said otherwise so I must assume now you are just spouting from anger.

7) Moan about how everything should be centralized in T.O.?????? Now you are just spouting your own personal reasons for your hysterical hatred of us. Once again I've never said that. I do favour a strong federal gov't but never once have I said that whatever Toronto does the west should follow. The fact that you think that just explains why you spit hatred at us 10 times a day on this forum.

Explain but not excuse.

Liberals can do no wrong??? Blah blah blah. What a fucking laugh riot. Considering that your opinion is exactly that but in reverse it seems like a sick joke you should say that about anybody.

BOTTOM LINE: Its you who launches thread after thread of anti-liberal rhetoric.

Its you who constantly degrades all of Ontario, well pretty much everything east of the Winnipeg-Ontario border (especially T.O).

Its you who seems to live his life based on hatred but suddenly you play the wounded innocent card whenever anybody calls you on it or dares to attack your cherished virtues it is comical.

Grow up. Calling homosexuality a disease is a bigoted belief. I wonder how you and your religious brethern would react if I said all belief in relgion was a mental disorder.

I can only imagine the howls of protest.

   

I hate liberal ideology and what it is doing to Canada.



Lived in your neck of the woods for several influential years. Still own property that way. I will visit both Ontario and Quebec several times this year. I can smell Toronto the moment I walk off the plane and I despise how the city has been wrecked and is a shell of its former self compared to 25 years ago. Ontario was once the greatest province in Confederation, the economic and social engine of Canada and the virtual patriotic heart of our nation. Today its a collective of unionised whiners, welfare advocates, ghettoised ethnic enclaves and social reengineers. You're an embarrassment as a province as you desperately try to continue the role of state to the inferior colonies of what some are calling "outter Canada" and I fear the pathetic mess you've created in Ontario will extend to the rest of Canada unless your stopped.

Allah be praised the people of Alberta are trying to save your asses but like saving any drowning man, you've got to be careful he doesn't drag you under before you get to save him.

Say....aren't you a have not province now too or is that supposed to kick off next year?



Don't know what wound I am supposedly licking from you but I've always admired how you liberal types have a penchant for declaring yourselves the 'winner' regardless of how badly you are beaten. You're just a stereotype that's good for cheap laughs when you get all indignant like you are now and a wonderful source into the mind of a neo liberal apologist when you're rational.



That's what I believe and I don't really see why you should give a fiddlers damn. I am not trying to stop your gay bars and parades. I don't care what you and some other guy are doing and I promise you I will defend your right to do so in these forums. But I have every right to disagree with the lifestyle, SSM and to voice opposition to tax supported advocacy and to do so free of your accusations of bigotry or religious intolerance. (Though I understand that's all you've got to work with). Further, I think you are a piss poor medical professional if you really believe nature intentionally designed some people to mate with the same sex and that the health consequences are comparable to that encountered by heterosexuals.



As you're one of the CKA high priests of atheism and strongly anti-Christian to the point you can't even bear to type the word, I'd expect most members would feel your operating within your natural left and right arc of fire.

BTW, I'm about as religious as you are straight.



I agree, it would all be in your imagination. I've only got to log on and you're hotter then Svend Robinson's ass in a pepper patch. You've either got to learn that some people don't share your wonky extremist left wing opinions or increase your howls of protest in hopes the brass will make this site more DerbyX friendly.

   

Thats quite evident. The difference is I don't let my anti-Xtian views cloud my judgement nor make it the focus of my entire existence despite the fact I think less of it then you do of Liberalism.



Awwwwww. I feel so slighted. The truth is that Ontario is a vibrant thriving province with a worldly outlook. Its a centre of research and development, a place where you can from city life to cottage life in an hour. Its a place built upon great patriotism and the belief in Canadian ideals, ideals that you simply do not have. Thats the real reason you despise us, you see us leading Canada in a direction that you can't stand, a direction based on tolerance and understanding.

You are the embarassment because you can't see the ultra conservative hideousness your beliefs would plague the rest of us with.



Sadly you aren't that much of an embarassment to Alberta.



Your "wounded card" is crying whenever anybody attacks your cherished little province or any of the right wing conservative nonsense you spout.



I don't give a damn if you think thats what it amounts to. As long as you realize its there right to do so then you can remain on the sidelines crying about it all you want. Your kind is becoming background noise to them anyway.



Is this all you have left? A strawman attack (or outright lie). I never said "nature intended it" though I did compare homosexual practices to the other "non-nature intended" sexual practices of perfectly atraight people.

In addition I have tried in vain to explain to your your errors and misconceptions concerning healthcare but sadly you just don't seem to grasp the obvious. Oh well.



Depends on who I am debating. The fact is that while I have this great bad rep as a rabid anti-christian I point out time and time again that I don't waste my time making it the focus of my life. I will not hesitate to state my beliefs as much as them nor attack them if they use their religious doctrine as points in a debate but the fact is I'm not launching attack thread after attack thread after attack thread (ad naseum)........ You are the one doing that.



Since I'm perfectly straight I can only agree whole-heartedly with that statement. I guess it really seems strange to you that a straight person would defend gays eh?



I could easily say the same thing about you. The truth is I share quite a few "conservative" beliefs despite my "rabid Liberalism". These beliefs include increased spending on the military, pro-gun ownership, a belief that we aren't responsible for fixing the worlds problems, and restricted immigration, especially from countries that are problematic.

The simple fact is that I've always said the best and most representative gov't is a coalition of sorts between the Libs and CPC. People like you make that impossible as your only belief is that the ROC has to simply agree and vote as you do or you will throw a fit.

Its funny that I have quite a few friends on this forum and they include many conservatives. We may not agree on everything but we respect each others opinions and when they get pissed off at me its usually my defense of the Liberal record.

   

I'm just pointing out your "atheist" hypocrosy. With you it's always about Christianity, never a bad word about any other religion. Even your use of "Xtian" which you know is a slur but you would never refer to a Muslim as a "Muhammedian" shows your anti-Christianity agenda.

Now, before all the Muslim apologists get their panties in a bunch, I honestly don't have a problem with negative comments about religious beliefs or political leanings, it's a good outlet for frustrations. What I do have a problem with is hypocrites who refer to themselves as "atheist" but ONLY attack one religion referring to the horrors it committed years ago while ignoring the major one that is causing the majority of problems today.

   

Atheism isn't defined by attacking the actions of other religions - it's a lack of belief in God, and in that sense, Christians, and Muslims are in the same boat as far as their belief in God.

   

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