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BartSimpson @ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:27 am
Fighter Fighter:
Every time the Muslim mentions the name Jesus (PBUH) without these words of respect, he would be considered disrespectful, uncouth or barbaric. The Christian does not know that in the Holy Quran, Jesus Christ (PBUH) is mentioned by name five times (5x) more than the number of times the prophet of Islam Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) is mentioned in the Book of Allah.
http://www.islam101.com/history/people/prophets/jesus/christ_in_islam2.htm
http://www.islam101.com/history/people/prophets/jesus/christ_in_islam2.htm
Which is utterly disingenuous (taqqiya) because too many Muslims believe that Christians deserve to die because they believe that Jesus Christ is not a prophet but instead is the Son of God.
You cannot truly respect Jesus unless you also respect His followers.
Fighter @ Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:15 am
Mum, I Have Converted To Islam And It's For The Best | Woke Up Call
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Hadith (Sayings of Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH):-
Abū Hurayrah relates that The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “Islam began strange, and it will become strange again just like it was at the beginning, so blessed are the strangers.” [Sahīh Muslim]
Note: Don't take literal meaning always....
Also ask Muslim scholar/Imam or go to Mosque if you feel any confusion or want to ask about anything regarding Islam 
In this age of internet, we are heavily bombarded by propaganda...Sometimes, it is very necessary to get out of the comfort zone and seek the "Truth"
martin14 @ Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:45 am
Fighter Fighter:
Mum, I Have Converted To Islam And It's For The Best | Woke Up Call
You might want to take it easy on the conversion videos, and actually engage
in what the other posters have presented.
But hey, if your job here is only to proselytize, just let us know so we can be clear
about your intentions.
Strutz @ Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:58 am
martin14 martin14:
Fighter Fighter:
Mum, I Have Converted To Islam And It's For The Best | Woke Up Call
You might want to take it easy on the conversion videos, and actually engage
in what the other posters have presented.
But hey, if your job here is only to proselytize, just let us know so we can be clear
about your intentions.
Maybe he has a quota to meet.
N_Fiddledog @ Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:42 am
Enjoyed the videos about the converts, or as I hear them call themselves sometimes - reverts.
Here's another one. 
It's interesting that it goes both ways. Leaving Islam can range from uncomfortable to dangerous depending on where it's done but apparently people do it.
and there are lots of these stories too.
Fighter @ Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:55 am
Strutz Strutz:
Maybe he has a quota to meet.
I still don't know what turned you against me.
martin14 martin14:
You might want to take it easy on the conversion videos, and actually engage
in what the other posters have presented.
But hey, if your job here is only to proselytize, just let us know so we can be clear
about your intentions.
I am just bringing what people over here most probably don't know...And no...I won't engage with some certain members...Why?? because I am not liable to do so.
What I do feel good about is that this forum has two threads running side by side regarding Islam.
No offense...
My intention regarding this thread is clear. I am here to generate interest of people regarding Islam and to make them see that look....If the propaganda against Islam is correct then why people are accepting Islam and so happy about that, means you got to give a chance to yourself for looking/studying Islam with removing all previous biases, if you have any.
Obviously as a Muslim...I will be happy if someone converts to my religion.
I also have other two threads on this forum...Thanks to the moderators over here who allowed me to have them with this one as well....I will not be engaging too much now and will restrict my self to only posting...
Thanks.
BartSimpson @ Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:36 pm
Fighter Fighter:
Strutz Strutz:
Maybe he has a quota to meet.
I still don't know what turned you against me.
martin14 martin14:
You might want to take it easy on the conversion videos, and actually engage
in what the other posters have presented.
But hey, if your job here is only to proselytize, just let us know so we can be clear
about your intentions.
I am just bringing what people over here most probably don't know...And no...I won't engage with some certain members...Why?? because I am not liable to do so.
What I do feel good about is that this forum has two threads running side by side regarding Islam.
No offense...
My intention regarding this thread is clear. I am here to generate interest of people regarding Islam and to make them see that look....If the propaganda against Islam is correct then why people are accepting Islam and so happy about that, means you got to give a chance to yourself for looking/studying Islam with removing all previous biases, if you have any.
Obviously as a Muslim...I will be happy if someone converts to my religion.
I also have other two threads on this forum...Thanks to the moderators over here who allowed me to have them with this one as well....I will not be engaging too much now and will restrict my self to only posting...
Thanks.
Remember when you started here and I devoted a considerable amount of text explaining to you why we've had problems with select Muslims in the past?
Aside from your travel posts (which I like
) this topic in which you proselytize for Islam is heading down the same path we've seen before: $1:
1. Muslim joins the board.
2. Is really nice at the start.
3. Within a few weeks turns to proselytizing Islam.
4. Eventually graduates to condemning other religions.
5. Eventually gets around to threatening other people.
6. Gets banned by a moderator.
2. Is really nice at the start.
3. Within a few weeks turns to proselytizing Islam.
4. Eventually graduates to condemning other religions.
5. Eventually gets around to threatening other people.
6. Gets banned by a moderator.
You're right now at #3.
I figure #4 will be on deck before the end of this calendar month. Feel free to prove me wrong on that.
Fighter @ Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:28 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
g down the same path we've seen before:
You're right now at #3.
I figure #4 will be on deck before the end of this calendar month. Feel free to prove me wrong on that.
$1:
1. Muslim joins the board.
2. Is really nice at the start.
3. Within a few weeks turns to proselytizing Islam.
4. Eventually graduates to condemning other religions.
5. Eventually gets around to threatening other people.
6. Gets banned by a moderator.
2. Is really nice at the start.
3. Within a few weeks turns to proselytizing Islam.
4. Eventually graduates to condemning other religions.
5. Eventually gets around to threatening other people.
6. Gets banned by a moderator.
You're right now at #3.
I figure #4 will be on deck before the end of this calendar month. Feel free to prove me wrong on that.
Fighter @ Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:34 pm
Sarah Haider? Atheist? She became atheist? Well, the Atheists are converting to Islam 
From Islam to Atheism Then Back to Islam
From Atheism To Islam - A Physicist Who Worked As A Scientist In BMW,Jaguar,Ford ...Etc
So many Atheists, now Muslims.
From Strong Atheist To Islam - Abdul Raheem - I Was Trying To Convince People That God Doesn't Exist
Note: No disrespect to any Atheist over here...I respect you guys. I am just replying to members over here...I may sometimes appears to be carried away but I don't want to disrespect anyone over here
Peace.
N_Fiddledog @ Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:22 am
Remember when Janet Jackson married a Muslim and he had her looking like this:
Then she got a divorce:
$1:
“Yes, I separated from my husband, we are in court and the rest is in God’s hands,” she said in the clip.
Notice she didn't say Allah's hands.
Last I heard she was on tour:
N_Fiddledog @ Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:29 am
You don't see a lot of individual people wanting to jump in front of YouTube to tell you how they left Islam though. Too dangerous.
Doesn't mean it doesn't happen though.
N_Fiddledog @ Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:43 am
And it isn't just the Atheists like Salman Rushdie and Ayaan Hirsi Ali who leave Islam.
Religions like Christianity get their fair share. Here's some of the more well known Christian converts from Islam.
$1:
Converted to Christianity
Preachers, Clerics, Scholars and Missionaries
Dr. Mustafa (now Dr. Mark Gabriel) - Former Muslim Imam, Ex-Professor in Al Azhar University, Cairo, Egypt (Most prestigious Islamic school of theology), and author of several well-known books discussing Islam.
Dr. Muhammed Rahoumy (now Dr. Samuel Paul) - Former Dean in Al Azhar Islamic University in Cairo Egypt.
El-Faqi - Ex-Imam and lawyer.
Hajji Husman Mohamed - Former Ethiopian Muslim Imam.
Hamran Ambrie - Indonesian Ex-Muslim cleric.
Mohammed Amin - Former Ethiopian Islamic cleric.
El-Akkad - Former Muslim preacher from Egypt.
Ak-Beket - Former Imam from Kazakhstan.
Mullah Assad Ullah - Former mullah from Afganistan.
Indonesian Imam who left Islam - Has led 3000 Muslims to Christ.
Fahmir - A Mullah started to preach the Gospel in Afghanistan.
Mischa - Mullah converts and becomes a church planter
Sudanese Muslim Imam - Converts to Christianity.
Rahman - Convert from Kosovo leads Mullah to Christ.
Imam - Decides to follow Christ after seeing Jesus film.
Mosque Teacher - Leaves Islam and launches Christian Radio Ministry.
Dr. Imad ud-Din Lahiz (Rev. Mawlawi) - Was a prolific Islamic Writer, Preacher, Qur'anic Translator.
Khalif Majid Hassan - Former Islamic preacher, and minister in the Nation of Islam.
Jeremiah Fard Muhammad - Muslim minister, now Christian evangelist.
Saleh Hussaini - Former Nigerian Muslim cleric.
Sam Solomon - Former Muslim scholar who trained in Shari'ah law for 15 years.
Yusuf Roni - Former Islamic Dawah Missionary, Islamic Youth Organization Chairman in Indonesia. Now a Christian preacher.
Jamal Zarka - Former Muslim Imam, Now Evangelist
Sheikh Mohamed Mansour - Prominent Egyptian Muslim Sheikh and Islamic Scholar.
Hamza - Former Islamic scholar.
Timothy Abraham - Former Muslim preacher and fundamentalist, now Christian Preacher.
Daniel Shayestah - Former Qur'anic teacher and scholar.
Ahmed Abdullahi - Former Muslim cleric.
Emmanuel (formerly Mohammed) - Former Muslim scholar.
Zak Gariba - Former Muslim Imam.
Mr. Moro S. Franci - Former Imam.
Mario Joseph (Moulvi Sulaiman) - Former Muslim cleric from India.
Other Prominent Converts to Christianity
Ubayd-Allah ibn Jahsh – Brother of Zainab bint Jash, the cousin and wife of Muhammad, and also one of the Sahabah (companions of the Prophet). He is the first known convert from Islam to Christianity.[3]
Chamillionaire (Hakeem Seriki) - Famous American rapper, singer, and CEO of Chamillitary Entertainment.
Mosab Hassan Yousef - Son of Hamas founder and leader.
Rajab Ali (now Nozad) - Renowned Iranian Muslim scholar.
Emir Kusturica - A filmmaker, actor and musician with a string of internationally acclaimed features.
Mehmet Ali Ağca - The assassin, who shot and wounded Pope John Paul II, renounced Islam in prison and announced his intention to convert to the Catholic faith upon release.[4]
Rev. Hamid Pourmand - Former Iranian army colonel.
Sake Dean Mahomed - According to Paul Vallely, in his propaganda piece about 20 Islamic Inventions, he was the Muslim who introduced shampoo to England. What Paul fails to include in his factually devoid article is that Mahomed was a convert to Christianity.[5]
Zachariah Anani - Lebanese Islamic ex-militant.
St. Alodia and St. Nunilo - Christian Saints and child martyrs, put to death by the Caliph of Cordoba for apostasy.[6]
Magdi Allam – Italy's most famous Islamic affairs journalist, baptized by the Pope.
St. Adolphus – Christian Saint and martyr, put to death by the Caliph of Cordoba for apostasy.[7]
Mohammed Altaf (now Simon Altaf) - Pakistani ex-Muslim from Abrahamic Faith Ministries.
Reverend Donald Fareed - Iranian ex-Muslim.
Ibrahim Abdullah - Former PLO terrorist.
Bilquis Sheikh - Former wife of a Minister of the Interior, in Pakistan.
Salah - Ex-Muslim Palestinian, now Gospel musician.
Dr. Abraham Sarker - Former Muslim, Bangladesh - Now Christian Evangelist, founder of "Gospel for Muslims" Ministries.
Pastor Hormoz Shariat Ph.D - Iranian ex-Muslim, former Research Scientist in Artificial Intelligence, now Tele-Evangelist, bringing the Gospel to Iran.
Bishop John Subhan - Former Sufi Muslim.
Abdul Saleeb - Former Sufi Muslim from Middle East, now Christian missionary to Muslims.
Kurdish apostate - Leader, writer, and historian finds God through Bible translation.
Gulshan Esther - Pakistan ex-Muslim who became a Christian preacher.
Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo - Former Muslim, now leads the largest and fastest growing church in England.
Abdullahi Jibril - Former Muslim extremist now faces persecution in Nigeria.
Dr. Nasir K. Siddiki - Successful Muslim businessman, now a Christian preacher.
Rev. Majed El Shafie
Rev KK Alavi - Son of a staunch Islamic cleric in India.
Walid Shoebat - A former PLO Islamic terrorist.
Reverend Khalid Soomro - Pakistani ex-Muslim.
Reza F.Safa - Iranian Ex-Muslim, now Christian Evangelist.
Rev. Dr. Patrick Sookhdeo - Pakistani, International Director of the UK-based Barnabas Fund.
Taysir Abu Saada "Tass" - Islamic Fatah fighter trained to kill Jews.
Guryel Ali - Gospel Musician.
WL Cati - Ex Muslim, now Evangelist.
Nonie Darwish - Freelance writer and public speaker.
Dr. Anis Shorrosh - Famous Christian debater.
Hussain Andaryas - Afghani Christian activist
Prince Alexander Bekovich-Cherkassky - Russian officer of Circassian origin who led the first Russian military expedition into Central Asia.
Akbar Gbaja-Biamila - American football player.
Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila - American football player.
Tunch Ilkin - Former American football player.
Qadry Ismail - Former American football player.
Raghib Ismail - Former American football player.
Mathieu Kérékou - President of Benin (from Christianity to Islam, then back to Christianity).
Carlos Menem - Former President of Argentina.
Sayyida Salme (Emily Ruete) - Princess of Zanzibar and Oman.
Ghorban Tourani - Former Iranian Sunni Muslim who became a Christian minister.
George Weah - Liberian soccer player (from Christianity to Islam, then back to Christianity)
Daveed Gartenstein-Ross - American counter-terrorism expert and attorney. Former US head of the Al Haramain Islamic Foundation, a Wahhabi charity now considered a Specially Designated Global Terrorist Entity for its ties to Al-Qaeda.
Ruba Qewar - (from Christianity to Islam, then back to Christianity) Her conversion to Islam made her popular in Muslim TV talk shows and the Arabic media.
Dr. Nabeel Qureshi - Former Muslim and now co-director of Acts 17 Apologetics Ministries. He has given lectures at universities and seminaries throughout North America.
Abet Hasman - Popular Greek politician of Jordanian origin. Conversion to Orthodox Christianity revealed only after his death in his obituary.
Preachers, Clerics, Scholars and Missionaries
Dr. Mustafa (now Dr. Mark Gabriel) - Former Muslim Imam, Ex-Professor in Al Azhar University, Cairo, Egypt (Most prestigious Islamic school of theology), and author of several well-known books discussing Islam.
Dr. Muhammed Rahoumy (now Dr. Samuel Paul) - Former Dean in Al Azhar Islamic University in Cairo Egypt.
El-Faqi - Ex-Imam and lawyer.
Hajji Husman Mohamed - Former Ethiopian Muslim Imam.
Hamran Ambrie - Indonesian Ex-Muslim cleric.
Mohammed Amin - Former Ethiopian Islamic cleric.
El-Akkad - Former Muslim preacher from Egypt.
Ak-Beket - Former Imam from Kazakhstan.
Mullah Assad Ullah - Former mullah from Afganistan.
Indonesian Imam who left Islam - Has led 3000 Muslims to Christ.
Fahmir - A Mullah started to preach the Gospel in Afghanistan.
Mischa - Mullah converts and becomes a church planter
Sudanese Muslim Imam - Converts to Christianity.
Rahman - Convert from Kosovo leads Mullah to Christ.
Imam - Decides to follow Christ after seeing Jesus film.
Mosque Teacher - Leaves Islam and launches Christian Radio Ministry.
Dr. Imad ud-Din Lahiz (Rev. Mawlawi) - Was a prolific Islamic Writer, Preacher, Qur'anic Translator.
Khalif Majid Hassan - Former Islamic preacher, and minister in the Nation of Islam.
Jeremiah Fard Muhammad - Muslim minister, now Christian evangelist.
Saleh Hussaini - Former Nigerian Muslim cleric.
Sam Solomon - Former Muslim scholar who trained in Shari'ah law for 15 years.
Yusuf Roni - Former Islamic Dawah Missionary, Islamic Youth Organization Chairman in Indonesia. Now a Christian preacher.
Jamal Zarka - Former Muslim Imam, Now Evangelist
Sheikh Mohamed Mansour - Prominent Egyptian Muslim Sheikh and Islamic Scholar.
Hamza - Former Islamic scholar.
Timothy Abraham - Former Muslim preacher and fundamentalist, now Christian Preacher.
Daniel Shayestah - Former Qur'anic teacher and scholar.
Ahmed Abdullahi - Former Muslim cleric.
Emmanuel (formerly Mohammed) - Former Muslim scholar.
Zak Gariba - Former Muslim Imam.
Mr. Moro S. Franci - Former Imam.
Mario Joseph (Moulvi Sulaiman) - Former Muslim cleric from India.
Other Prominent Converts to Christianity
Ubayd-Allah ibn Jahsh – Brother of Zainab bint Jash, the cousin and wife of Muhammad, and also one of the Sahabah (companions of the Prophet). He is the first known convert from Islam to Christianity.[3]
Chamillionaire (Hakeem Seriki) - Famous American rapper, singer, and CEO of Chamillitary Entertainment.
Mosab Hassan Yousef - Son of Hamas founder and leader.
Rajab Ali (now Nozad) - Renowned Iranian Muslim scholar.
Emir Kusturica - A filmmaker, actor and musician with a string of internationally acclaimed features.
Mehmet Ali Ağca - The assassin, who shot and wounded Pope John Paul II, renounced Islam in prison and announced his intention to convert to the Catholic faith upon release.[4]
Rev. Hamid Pourmand - Former Iranian army colonel.
Sake Dean Mahomed - According to Paul Vallely, in his propaganda piece about 20 Islamic Inventions, he was the Muslim who introduced shampoo to England. What Paul fails to include in his factually devoid article is that Mahomed was a convert to Christianity.[5]
Zachariah Anani - Lebanese Islamic ex-militant.
St. Alodia and St. Nunilo - Christian Saints and child martyrs, put to death by the Caliph of Cordoba for apostasy.[6]
Magdi Allam – Italy's most famous Islamic affairs journalist, baptized by the Pope.
St. Adolphus – Christian Saint and martyr, put to death by the Caliph of Cordoba for apostasy.[7]
Mohammed Altaf (now Simon Altaf) - Pakistani ex-Muslim from Abrahamic Faith Ministries.
Reverend Donald Fareed - Iranian ex-Muslim.
Ibrahim Abdullah - Former PLO terrorist.
Bilquis Sheikh - Former wife of a Minister of the Interior, in Pakistan.
Salah - Ex-Muslim Palestinian, now Gospel musician.
Dr. Abraham Sarker - Former Muslim, Bangladesh - Now Christian Evangelist, founder of "Gospel for Muslims" Ministries.
Pastor Hormoz Shariat Ph.D - Iranian ex-Muslim, former Research Scientist in Artificial Intelligence, now Tele-Evangelist, bringing the Gospel to Iran.
Bishop John Subhan - Former Sufi Muslim.
Abdul Saleeb - Former Sufi Muslim from Middle East, now Christian missionary to Muslims.
Kurdish apostate - Leader, writer, and historian finds God through Bible translation.
Gulshan Esther - Pakistan ex-Muslim who became a Christian preacher.
Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo - Former Muslim, now leads the largest and fastest growing church in England.
Abdullahi Jibril - Former Muslim extremist now faces persecution in Nigeria.
Dr. Nasir K. Siddiki - Successful Muslim businessman, now a Christian preacher.
Rev. Majed El Shafie
Rev KK Alavi - Son of a staunch Islamic cleric in India.
Walid Shoebat - A former PLO Islamic terrorist.
Reverend Khalid Soomro - Pakistani ex-Muslim.
Reza F.Safa - Iranian Ex-Muslim, now Christian Evangelist.
Rev. Dr. Patrick Sookhdeo - Pakistani, International Director of the UK-based Barnabas Fund.
Taysir Abu Saada "Tass" - Islamic Fatah fighter trained to kill Jews.
Guryel Ali - Gospel Musician.
WL Cati - Ex Muslim, now Evangelist.
Nonie Darwish - Freelance writer and public speaker.
Dr. Anis Shorrosh - Famous Christian debater.
Hussain Andaryas - Afghani Christian activist
Prince Alexander Bekovich-Cherkassky - Russian officer of Circassian origin who led the first Russian military expedition into Central Asia.
Akbar Gbaja-Biamila - American football player.
Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila - American football player.
Tunch Ilkin - Former American football player.
Qadry Ismail - Former American football player.
Raghib Ismail - Former American football player.
Mathieu Kérékou - President of Benin (from Christianity to Islam, then back to Christianity).
Carlos Menem - Former President of Argentina.
Sayyida Salme (Emily Ruete) - Princess of Zanzibar and Oman.
Ghorban Tourani - Former Iranian Sunni Muslim who became a Christian minister.
George Weah - Liberian soccer player (from Christianity to Islam, then back to Christianity)
Daveed Gartenstein-Ross - American counter-terrorism expert and attorney. Former US head of the Al Haramain Islamic Foundation, a Wahhabi charity now considered a Specially Designated Global Terrorist Entity for its ties to Al-Qaeda.
Ruba Qewar - (from Christianity to Islam, then back to Christianity) Her conversion to Islam made her popular in Muslim TV talk shows and the Arabic media.
Dr. Nabeel Qureshi - Former Muslim and now co-director of Acts 17 Apologetics Ministries. He has given lectures at universities and seminaries throughout North America.
Abet Hasman - Popular Greek politician of Jordanian origin. Conversion to Orthodox Christianity revealed only after his death in his obituary.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Notable_Former_Muslims
And remember Rifqa Bary - 17 year old American teenager who drew international attention by her run away fearing death? I was really pulling for her to make it out alive. Apparently she did. Yay Rifqa.
stratos @ Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:38 am
$1:
Quote:
1. Muslim joins the board.
2. Is really nice at the start.
3. Within a few weeks turns to proselytizing Islam.
4. Eventually graduates to condemning other religions.
5. Eventually gets around to threatening other people.
6. Gets banned by a moderator.
You're right now at #3.
I figure #4 will be on deck before the end of this calendar month. Feel free to prove me wrong on that.
1. Muslim joins the board.
2. Is really nice at the start.
3. Within a few weeks turns to proselytizing Islam.
4. Eventually graduates to condemning other religions.
5. Eventually gets around to threatening other people.
6. Gets banned by a moderator.
You're right now at #3.
I figure #4 will be on deck before the end of this calendar month. Feel free to prove me wrong on that.
Kind of figure by late summer #4 will start happening.
Fighter @ Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:02 am
A Catholic sister asked Yusuf Estes- Why he accepted Islam - 2011
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Jesus in Islam (part 1 of 3)
The Islamic view of Jesus lies between two extremes. The Jews, who rejected Jesus as a prophet, called him an imposter, while the Christians, on the other hand, considered him to be the son of God and worship him as such. Islam considers Jesus to be one of the greatest and most forbearing of prophets, in addition to Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad, peace be upon them. Jesus is also considered to be the Messiah as well. This is in conformity with the Islamic view of the Oneness of God, the Oneness of Divine guidance, and the complementary role of the subsequent mission of God’s messengers.
https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/31/viewall/jesus-in-islam/
stratos @ Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:27 am
The Jews did not reject Jesus as a prophet but rejected that he was the Messiah and thus the Son of God.
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