Should America annex Canada? The unDead thread
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Robair @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:23 pm
pillowyoureyes pillowyoureyes:
I've always found it strange how such a religious country could impose the death penalty... isn't that weird? 
I had the exact same argument over the death penalty with my mum, it took a lot of talking/discussing/arguing but I actually finally made her see sense! She saw it from the point of view that if someone had killed me, her son, she would want to see him get the death penalty. I told her what if I was one of the innocent people wrongly convicted of murder and sentenced to death, indirectly by my own pro-death penalty mother? It soon shut her up
I had the exact same argument over the death penalty with my mum, it took a lot of talking/discussing/arguing but I actually finally made her see sense! She saw it from the point of view that if someone had killed me, her son, she would want to see him get the death penalty. I told her what if I was one of the innocent people wrongly convicted of murder and sentenced to death, indirectly by my own pro-death penalty mother? It soon shut her up
She must be a tad quicker on the uptake than Johnny, our favorite Canadian wannabe.
thirdEye @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:49 pm
Clifford Olsen. Paul Bernardo.
The two best arguments for the death penalty in Canada.
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:54 pm
Robair Robair:
pillowyoureyes pillowyoureyes:
I've always found it strange how such a religious country could impose the death penalty... isn't that weird?
I had the exact same argument over the death penalty with my mum, it took a lot of talking/discussing/arguing but I actually finally made her see sense! She saw it from the point of view that if someone had killed me, her son, she would want to see him get the death penalty. I told her what if I was one of the innocent people wrongly convicted of murder and sentenced to death, indirectly by my own pro-death penalty mother? It soon shut her up
I had the exact same argument over the death penalty with my mum, it took a lot of talking/discussing/arguing but I actually finally made her see sense! She saw it from the point of view that if someone had killed me, her son, she would want to see him get the death penalty. I told her what if I was one of the innocent people wrongly convicted of murder and sentenced to death, indirectly by my own pro-death penalty mother? It soon shut her up
She must be a tad quicker on the uptake than Johnny, our favorite Canadian wannabe.
Wouldn't shut me up, and anyways, from what I have read, there hasn't been an innocent convicted of death since 1900, so I don't see how you have a valid point. Maybe you should read the post that I copied and pasted about why I am for it, which has facts, and tells about how there hasn't been an innocent killed since 1900. There have been people convicted of the death sentence who have been taken off of death row, but they weren't innocent. I also think, Robair, that being a Canadian or American has nothing to do with what your point of view on things is, unless you believe if you are a Canadian you must not believe in the death penalty, otherwise you are a wannabe.
Robair @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:56 pm
thirdEye thirdEye:
Clifford Olsen. Paul Bernardo.
The two best arguments for the death penalty in Canada.
The two best arguments for the death penalty in Canada.
You're forgetting pickerton. BUT: David Millgard, the number one reason against the death penalty in Canada.
AdamNF @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:00 pm
$1:
What gives the murderer the right to go after people and kill them?
The murder doesnt have the right, thats why the go to jail.
I'm asking how old are you, how old are you?
AdamNF @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:03 pm
IF you, me, or the goverement kils someone as punishment then we, they and you are no better then the murderer themselfs. And thats my opinion.
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:03 pm
AdamNF AdamNF:
$1:
So you're telling me me that when someone like osama kills 3000 innocent people who did nothing to him, it is wrong to kill that person and we are sinking to his level, because he is innocent also? It's okay for him to kill people that did nothing to him, but wrong for the people he did something to to retaliate and kill him?
I never said it was ok for people to kill, where are you getting this? Yes its wrong to kill Osama Bil Laden. A life is a life, weather its an evil life, or child's life. I an im not way condoning killing, as i have said i totaly againts anyone killing anyone for any reason. Its wrong and sadistic for people to punish killers by killing them. I'm glad i don't like in a countrey that does, i would be ashamed of myself.
$1:
Someone breaks into your house, kills your wife and children, and is coming after you, but with your logic, it would be wrong to kill him because then you would be sinking to his level, right?
I think you need to read my posts becasue your not understanding what im saying. If someone came in to my house and killed my family and came after me, and i killed him. That would be self defence. But i have no right to go after that man and purposly kill him. I agree with the right to self defense but not the right to murder.
Johnnybgoodaaaaa how old are you. From you're rants and how you answer you're own posts (there is an edit button) and how to refuse to read what you're oposition rights, i mean my posts are not long, read them. And you put word is people mouths like u just did to me, your telling me what i did and didnt say, what i do and dont mean. Dont do that.
What you are saying is it's wrong for Osama to die, someone whos only purpose is to kill and destroy people and their society. I can't say I agree with you on that. I read what you WRITE, but I don't think you should be asking me how old I am, considering you have a hard time spelling and using there most of the time.
What gives the murderer the right to go after people and kill them? Should the justice given to him be that the people he went after and killed pay for him to live nicely in an air conditioned cell eating food at their expense? According to you, a life is a life, so how can even self-defense be justified, because you would be taking a life? I can't believe you said Osama bin laden doesnt deserve to die, because his whole purpose is to kill mass numbers of people, and create world havoc, and his death would benefit the world greatly if you ask me, just as the death of every other person of his terrorist organization. You might not agree that Osama should die, but I lived in the US just last year and you don't know what it's like when your country is being threatened all the time and having to worry about biological weapons being used or a nuke. He is a threat to my home country, and I don't want him alive.
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:07 pm
Robair Robair:
thirdEye thirdEye:
Clifford Olsen. Paul Bernardo.
The two best arguments for the death penalty in Canada.
The two best arguments for the death penalty in Canada.
You're forgetting pickerton. BUT: David Millgard, the number one reason against the death penalty in Canada.
David Millgard was never executed.
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:08 pm
AdamNF AdamNF:
$1:
What gives the murderer the right to go after people and kill them?
The murder doesnt have the right, thats why the go to jail.
I'm asking how old are you, how old are you?
What the hell does it matter how old I am? You are just going to try to use whatever age I am against me. I will not play that game.
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:09 pm
Robair Robair:
Johnnybgoodaaaaa Johnnybgoodaaaaa:
David Millgard was never executed.
That's because he's Canadian, I think arguing with you is starting to lower my IQ.
Well I don't see what David millgrad has to do with the death penalty if he was never executed. If anything, you could argue that that shows we shouldn't send people to prison, because that would be inhumane, actually, we could get rid of the whole rule of law so that innocent people dont risk being sent to prison.
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:12 pm
Robair Robair:
Johnnybgoodaaaaa Johnnybgoodaaaaa:
David Millgard was never executed.
That's because he's Canadian, I think arguing with you is starting to lower my IQ.
Im sure im not making that much of a difference in your iq, considering it was never very high....
Robair @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:12 pm
Johnnybgoodaaaaa Johnnybgoodaaaaa:
David Millgard was never executed.
That's because he's Canadian, I think arguing with you is starting to lower my IQ.
thirdEye @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:13 pm
Robair Robair:
thirdEye thirdEye:
Clifford Olsen. Paul Bernardo.
The two best arguments for the death penalty in Canada.
The two best arguments for the death penalty in Canada.
You're forgetting pickerton. BUT: David Millgard, the number one reason against the death penalty in Canada.
I agree. But forensics have improved greatly. The death penalty doesn't have to be a black and white issue. I would not want to see every murderer executed, necessarily, but extreme cases like Bernardo, Olsen, and now Pickerton, definitely. Since Bernardo and Olsen are classified as dangerous offenders, and will never see the light of day again, why keep them around?
Forensics are getting so good that reasonable doubt may soon be a thing of the past.
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:14 pm
thirdEye thirdEye:
Robair Robair:
thirdEye thirdEye:
Clifford Olsen. Paul Bernardo.
The two best arguments for the death penalty in Canada.
The two best arguments for the death penalty in Canada.
You're forgetting pickerton. BUT: David Millgard, the number one reason against the death penalty in Canada.
I agree. But forensics have improved greatly. The death penalty doesn't have to be a black and white issue. I would not want to see every murderer executed, necessarily, but extreme cases like Bernardo, Olsen, and now Pickerton, definitely. Since Bernardo and Olsen are classified as dangerous offenders, and will never see the light of day again, why keep them around?
Forensics are getting so good that reasonable doubt may soon be a thing of the past.
Ahhh, finally someone I can agree with...
Rev_Blair @ Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:23 pm
In a few years the technology will exist to bring the DNA evidence into question. Then what?
I think it was Johnny who mumbled something about not reading about an innocent person being given the death penalty since 1900. You need to do more reading, Johnny.
What you guys are really talking about is the state, representing you, to be allowed to commit cold-blooded, pre-meditated murder. Think about that. It makes you a murderer...no better than the scum you are killing.
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