USA Police Misconduct Reports
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DrCaleb @ Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:53 am
andyt andyt:
AS for Caleb, I take someone saying that he can understand how other people see me as x, as holding that belief themselves.
Or as advice, as you might not see it yourself.
andyt @ Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:56 am
Sure. You believe it's true, so you want to advise me about it. Otherwise you wouldn't do so.
But, as I said, I take that advice with a grain of salt. Especially Canadian Mind jumping in too. I find it a bit strange that y'all would deem me the poster on CKA that needs advice on how to act here.
DrCaleb @ Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:01 am
andyt andyt:
Sure. You believe it's true, so you want to advise me about it. Otherwise you wouldn't do so.
But, as I said, I take that advice with a grain of salt. Especially Canadian Mind jumping in too. I find it a bit strange that y'all would deem me the poster on CKA that needs advice on how to act here.
But, as I said, I take that advice with a grain of salt. Especially Canadian Mind jumping in too. I find it a bit strange that y'all would deem me the poster on CKA that needs advice on how to act here.
Take all advice that way. I'm not going to tell anyone how to act, I simply saw an example of what people tell you that you are like, and pointed it out to you. Feel free to do with that advice whatever you like, including nothing. Eyes wide open, as it were.
andyt @ Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:03 am
Yes, that's my plan.
BartSimpson @ Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:16 am
Thanos Thanos:
Around fifty American police officers have been killed in the line of duty since that 'gentle giant' Mike Brown got shot in Ferguson back in summer.
'Killed' doesn't mean they were killed by criminals.
http://www.odmp.org/search/year
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Two of them shot themselves due to poor discipline. (These could also be suicides that have been covered up as 'accidents' in order that the families would receive benefits and life insurance.)
Fifteen died due to poor health. ('Death by Donut')
Five died in vehicle pursuits but twenty five more died in plain old auto accidents.
And some of those shootings are going to be blue-on-blue as I recall at least two such shootings back in September. Sadly, that's not an uncommon event - especially in New York City which leads the nation in blue-on-blue shootings.
Jabberwalker @ Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:25 am
Regrettably, there are sick bastards out there who hunt policeman just for the sake of it. This latest case in New York sure looks that way. It has certainly happened in our country as well, with multiple Mounties killed in two recent cases by ambush.
DrCaleb @ Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:20 pm
$1:
Cops charged after police body cams capture them killing homeless man
Video footage doesn't tell entire story, defense attorney says.
Two Albuquerque, New Mexico police officers were charged Monday with suspicion of murder after cop body cams filmed them killing a knife-wielding homeless man who was camping in nearby city hills.
James Boyd, a 38-year-old homeless man, died in March after he was shot by a shotgun, bombarded with shots of nonlethal bean bags and was the target of flash-bang grenades following an hours-long standoff with police. The police said they were dealing with Boyd because he was breaking the law by camping in the Sandia Mountains above the city.
Video captured by officer helmet and body cams showed officers firing at the man, who had two small camping knives in his hand, when he turned his back and even while he was on the ground. As the man was face down after being shot, the authorities unleashed a police dog, which was seen mauling the victim's leg.
Video footage doesn't tell entire story, defense attorney says.
Two Albuquerque, New Mexico police officers were charged Monday with suspicion of murder after cop body cams filmed them killing a knife-wielding homeless man who was camping in nearby city hills.
James Boyd, a 38-year-old homeless man, died in March after he was shot by a shotgun, bombarded with shots of nonlethal bean bags and was the target of flash-bang grenades following an hours-long standoff with police. The police said they were dealing with Boyd because he was breaking the law by camping in the Sandia Mountains above the city.
Video captured by officer helmet and body cams showed officers firing at the man, who had two small camping knives in his hand, when he turned his back and even while he was on the ground. As the man was face down after being shot, the authorities unleashed a police dog, which was seen mauling the victim's leg.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015 ... eless-man/
ShepherdsDog @ Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:41 pm
This is a case where only tasers and bean bag guns would have been necessary. At most rubber bullets.
MeganC @ Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:04 pm
I saw that one and it was just awful!!! 
BartSimpson @ Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:34 pm
Another fun moment for American law enforcement (be sure to read the punch line at the end).
From the Washington Post
$1:
On a quiet weeknight among the stately manors of Great Falls, ten men sat around a table in the basement of a private home last November playing high stakes poker. Suddenly, masked and heavily armed SWAT team officers from the Fairfax County Police Department burst through the door, pointed their assault rifles at the players and ordered them to put their hands on the table. The players complied. Their cash was seized, including a reported $150,000 from the game’s host, and eight of the ten players were charged with the Class 3 misdemeanor of illegal gambling, punishable by a maximum fine of $500….
[The police cut the players] a deal: stay clean for six months and the gambling charge would be dismissed, and eligible to be expunged from their record. And for those who had cash seized from them — one player had more than $20,000, the regular player said — the police agreed to return 60 percent of the money, and keep 40 percent….
The regular player said the police told him, “The reason we’re here is there are Asian gangs targeting these games,” and it’s certainly true that some private gambling events in Fairfax County have been robbed by nefarious elements. The player said he wanted to respond, “So you robbed us first,” but he did not.
[The police cut the players] a deal: stay clean for six months and the gambling charge would be dismissed, and eligible to be expunged from their record. And for those who had cash seized from them — one player had more than $20,000, the regular player said — the police agreed to return 60 percent of the money, and keep 40 percent….
The regular player said the police told him, “The reason we’re here is there are Asian gangs targeting these games,” and it’s certainly true that some private gambling events in Fairfax County have been robbed by nefarious elements. The player said he wanted to respond, “So you robbed us first,” but he did not.
Xort @ Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:41 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Another fun moment for American law enforcement (be sure to read the punch line at the end).
From the Washington Post
From the Washington Post
The police should never be given any money they collect from any aspect of their work.
Otherwise they are just another gang, running protection rackets and shaking down the population for cash.
Further local government also shouldn't be able to collect any of the funds they would gather from legal violations.
BartSimpson @ Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:03 pm
Exactly. In this case the comment that the police robbed the card players before an Asian gang could is 100% accurate.
ShepherdsDog @ Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:09 pm
What are the taxes you pay on lottery or casino wins? Taking that 40% seems to be all about the government collecting taxes on winnings.
DrCaleb @ Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:18 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
What are the taxes you pay on lottery or casino wins? Taking that 40% seems to be all about the government collecting taxes on winnings.
Taxes are collected by the IRS, not SWAT. There are reasons we have here as to why you must pay with exact change for things like licenses at an RCMP station, and why they will not accept payment for traffic tickets - to avoid the appearance of taking cash money for any reason.
Besides, how much does the IRS take on a 'friendly' game of cards in your own basement? None! Having the cops point guns at you then take all your money is robbery! Just because they have badges does not make it right.
ShepherdsDog @ Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:20 am
$1:
Taxes are collected by the IRS, not SWAT.
for now
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