Michael Moore for President
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Fri May 07, 2004 9:27 am
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:
They never back their statements, Indelible.
The fact is that the radical right didn't care what Moore said, then Stupid White Men topped the best sellers list for months and Bowling for Columbine won awards and became very popular. They began to understand that people listen to Michael Moore.
The right immediately began the name-calling and half-truths. The biggest and my personal favourite? That Moore actually makes money. So? He doesn't kill children for his money, Bush does.
Disney is trying block distribution of Moore's latest film, "Fahrenheit 911", possibly because politically based tax concerns. This New York Times article talks about that.
The fact is that the radical right didn't care what Moore said, then Stupid White Men topped the best sellers list for months and Bowling for Columbine won awards and became very popular. They began to understand that people listen to Michael Moore.
The right immediately began the name-calling and half-truths. The biggest and my personal favourite? That Moore actually makes money. So? He doesn't kill children for his money, Bush does.
Disney is trying block distribution of Moore's latest film, "Fahrenheit 911", possibly because politically based tax concerns. This New York Times article talks about that.
Michael Moore might be good at Journalism or influencing peoples opinions, but to my knowledge he never even finished college, and the question of the thread was Mickeal Moore for president, which I would be completely against. Being a journalist and open peoples eyes to things is one thing, but being the ceo of a country of 300 million people is another. Ralph Nader or John kerry before Micheal Moore, and anyone else with more education. I mean, how could most of you Canadians feel if some journalist without a college degree became your prime minister? I don't know about you, but I just feel safer with someone who has a degree and a good amount of education. I want to get rid of Bush because I think he's an idiot, so why would I want someone else who doesn't have a complete education. I like what michael Moore stands for, but I wouldn't want him running my home country.
electricbuford @ Fri May 07, 2004 9:33 am
QBCguy QBCguy:
. I think the yanks should elect George Carlin for president.
ME TOO! I'm real familar with George Carlin,have been enjoying his career since the late seventies.If he was president,the U.S. would be a totally different country,and would become alot more like what it should be.Rush Limbaugh,Anne Coulter,Michael Savage,FOX news,etc. would be sent packing.And as for Michael Moore? -he'd be out of the spotlight and probably out of a career,because there wouldn't be much left to complain about.If you know anything about George Carlin,then you know he sure ain't a right winger.
karra @ Fri May 07, 2004 9:55 am
$1:
I mean, how could most of you Canadians feel if some journalist without a college degree became your prime minister? I don't know about you, but I just feel safer with someone who has a degree and a good amount of education.
Geez, I don't know about that - why not give an uneducated journo or even j-student a chance?
Look how were doing with 'educated' lawyers running/ruining this place.
Couldn't be any worse, could it?
Johnnybgoodaaaaa @ Fri May 07, 2004 10:14 am
karra karra:
$1:
I mean, how could most of you Canadians feel if some journalist without a college degree became your prime minister? I don't know about you, but I just feel safer with someone who has a degree and a good amount of education.
Geez, I don't know about that - why not give an uneducated journo or even j-student a chance?
Look how were doing with 'educated' lawyers running/ruining this place.
Couldn't be any worse, could it?
Things can always be worse. Canada has a decent economy compared to other countries, and enjoys a good trade surplus. People with only high school degrees like Michael Moore lack certain classes you can get in college which will let you be in the know about economic or other things which are good for the government. Sure, no government is perfect, and just because someone has a college degree doesn't mean they are smart, but I've always felt that someone with a college degree or even a masters is alot more qualified to run a country than someone without.
It's hard to pick up if you are being sarcastic, or what you are saying. Are you saying that people should give a journalist a chance, because he would be no better than the present people, or are you being sarcastic and making fun of the idea of even having a journalist like michael moore as president?
ofaolain @ Fri May 07, 2004 3:26 pm
May 6, 2004 – Editorial, New York Times
Disney's Craven Behavior
Give the Walt Disney Company a gold medal for cowardice for blocking its Miramax division from distributing a film that criticizes President Bush and his family. A company that ought to be championing free expression has instead chosen to censor a documentary that clearly falls within the bounds of acceptable political commentary.
The documentary was prepared by Michael Moore, a controversial filmmaker who likes to skewer the rich and powerful. As described by Jim Rutenberg yesterday in The Times, the film, "Fahrenheit 9/11," links the Bush family with prominent Saudis, including the family of Osama bin Laden. It describes financial ties that go back three decades and explores the role of the government in evacuating relatives of Mr. bin Laden from the United States shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The film was financed by Miramax and was expected to be released this summer.
Mr. Moore's agent said that Michael Eisner, Disney's chief executive, had expressed concern that the film might jeopardize tax breaks granted to Disney for its theme park, hotels and other ventures in Florida, where Jeb Bush is governor. If that is the reason for Disney's move, it would underscore the dangers of allowing huge conglomerates to gobble up diverse media companies.
On the other hand, a senior Disney executive says the real reason is that Disney caters to families of all political stripes and that many of them might be alienated by the film. Those families, of course, would not have to watch the documentary.
It is hard to say which rationale for blocking distribution is more depressing. But it is clear that Disney loves its bottom line more than the freedom of political discourse.
Rev_Blair @ Fri May 07, 2004 3:31 pm
Been huffing solvents again Karra?
karra @ Fri May 07, 2004 4:18 pm
$1:
Been huffing solvents again Karra?
Finally a question to a subject you may actually have knowledge of - solvents. Love when you keep your posts brief thereby not burdening the gentle and gentile reader with your usual cut 'n paste and script.
If you care to recall your pal and erstwhile leader of all things left stated recently: "Disney was trying to sabotage the US release of Fahrenheit 911 just days before its world premiere at the Cannes film festival."
Why do you suppose he would say such a thing when he knew for a year
Disney wasn't going to release his trash?
Where is the contract Moore states Disney signed with him to distribute this crap? Disney says it doesn't exist - why would it if a year ago they said they wouldn't distribute it?
Disney, being a private corporation makes it's own decisions. That they chose not to distribute the usual lies, exaggerations and flummery by his lardoship is entirely their business.
Where oh where is the censorship here?
ofaolain @ Fri May 07, 2004 4:23 pm
karra karra:
$1:
Been huffing solvents again Karra?
Why do you suppose he would say such a thing when he knew for a year
Disney wasn't going to release his trash?
and where is your proof of this.......
Rev_Blair @ Fri May 07, 2004 4:44 pm
She has no proof of anything, ofaolain. She makes shit up, including quotes apparently. She's a vicious, ugly little troll with a non-working brain and hatred for anything that won't make her money. She'll no doubt spend that money on even more brain-destroying industrial products.
Piss off, Karra. You're an idiot.
ofaolain @ Fri May 07, 2004 5:10 pm
your right Rev Blair......I think she does like the solvents......she is in definite need of a reality check
Indelible @ Fri May 07, 2004 5:41 pm
isn't that just freakin' hillarious...
at the beginning of the thread there was like 3 or 4 posts saying michael moore is lying in his movie(s)
i asked what he lied about, adamnf posted a link and now no one seems to want to talk about how much of a liar he is.
admitting you were wrong is a hard thing to do isn't it?
ofaolain @ Fri May 07, 2004 5:44 pm
Indelible Indelible:
isn't that just freakin' hillarious...
at the beginning of the thread there was like 3 or 4 posts saying michael moore is lying in his movie(s)
i asked what he lied about, adamnf posted a link and now no one seems to want to talk about how much of a liar he is.
admitting you were wrong is a hard thing to do isn't it?
at the beginning of the thread there was like 3 or 4 posts saying michael moore is lying in his movie(s)
i asked what he lied about, adamnf posted a link and now no one seems to want to talk about how much of a liar he is.
admitting you were wrong is a hard thing to do isn't it?
I think that is why Karra hasn't responded back yet.....LOL
Zenfisher @ Fri May 07, 2004 5:57 pm
College and university aren't the be all & end all of knowledge. Certainly they help. Life itself is by far, more enlightening than schools.In the North American systems it seems appearance is a better indicator of electability. Sad but true.
Perhaps mandatory IQ tests for ALL politicians. Followed by mandatory lie detector tests. Followed by complete finacial disclosure for the last 20 years. Then we might actually find some real leadership in North America.
Indelible @ Fri May 07, 2004 6:01 pm
lie detectors are useless unless they are hooked up to a very powerful electrical shock type of system, and the politician is hooked up to it 24/7
AdamNF @ Fri May 07, 2004 6:16 pm
Plus, IQ test don't show u how smart you are, they tell you how good your are at doing IQ tests.