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You basically came out and said your opinion is fact. Nobody is disrespecting it, both Lily and I have voiced our surprised at what we thought was a common belief.

   

And called bullshit on my experiences. I don't think I have to try that to a Canadian experience, do I?

And yes, my opinion is fact. Go check stat holidays in Holland. You have more stat holidays on WWII then Holland does. Nice eh?

In daily life, nobody gives a shit about Canada. Like you don't give a shit about Holland.

   

Had they liberated Canada I would give a shit about them.

   

Yeah, sure, that is easy to say. Assumption.

   

Hell no, you see all these Canadians here that remember what happened in a foreign country? Just imagine the response you'd get if we were the liberated instead of the liberator.

   

Our history is our culture. That we, 200-300 years ago, had two massive ethnic groups that historically HATED each other, and somehow they both thrived (until of late, because Quebec became whiny)

That we had two major religious groups who also historically hated each other, and somehow we found a balance alot faster than a good chunk of this planet, even today, being one of the first multi-ethnic states without either group actively enslaving or oppressing eachother.

That we started off in the 1600s, being younger than a majority of states, and growing from a "Frozen Wasteland" as the French described New France after the Seven Years' war to a developed nation of 30 million strong. Growing from catching beavers and cutting trees to building cars and inventing robotic arms that go to space.

That we 30 million people have an economy of 1 trillion dollars. That people from countries that are farrrr older come here to call us home.

Being Canadian is more than maple syrup and eh and Timmies. Its the pride knowing that some backwater colony was able to storm a beach on DDay, going farther than both the Americans and British.

We have a rich history, of two separate religions in one land (well more now but you know), of foods that you can only find in Quebec or British Columbia or PEI. I mean, I've never seen a good Maple sugar pie outside my grandmother's kitchen. Or a good slice of Canadian bacon on my sandwich, or an excellent piece of Shepard's Pie.

Is our culture overshadowed by the Brits, and now the Americans? Sure, but that doesn't mean its not there. We have a strong history, and our culture is found inside the kitchens and the photo albums. In the museums and in the cities. Its hard to describe Canadian culture, you're right, but not because its not there, but because its not as simple as saying a few key words like you can do with the Poles, or the Italians, or the Chinese. Canada grew up as a colony, and as a multiethnic colony to top that.

I mean, like people say, when you think of China, you'd probably think Great Wall, and some Chinese food, and maybe communism. If you think of Egypt, the Pyramids and a Pharaoh comes up. If you think of Canada, people might think cold, igloos, and shit like that, but once you're there, sitting at the dining room table, or looking through the photo albums, that's our culture.

   

   

I'll put this question to all the Canadians that come to this site. Were you under the impression that the Netherlands had a deep respect and admiration for Canada due to our actions during World War Two?

   

   

I think you're missing my point too. I never denied Canada has problems. My point was that you use US stereotypes against the US, like when I quoted the gun psychotic thing. That's what pissed me off, and I'm saying that if an American did the same thing about Canada, you'd be pissed.




Oh I know you can be, and that's perfectly fine. I am good friends with a shitload of anti-Americans. But I hate stereotypes. HATEEEEE. If you want to hate the US, hate it for its government, or for its pollution issues, or the lack of respect it has for us. Don't use stereotypes as a reason.

So since you apologize, I will too, and I know you're a good kid, hell I'm nearly the same age. I wasn't intending to get pissed, but I don't like ignorance on stereotypes since it leads to irrational hatred. If you want to hate the US, go ahead, a free country, and if you want to ignore it, fine, but don't stereotype it. Stereotypes are the worst thing you can do to you, and it breeds contempt.

So I am really sorry for blowing up, but you see my point hopefully.

   

   

Oh please nobody's a good kid, I'm fucked up plenty of times too. I mean that you're a smart one, you can do alot of good shit. I mean hell, I don't think any of us were well behaved. Hell I'm breaking the law in both Ontario and Michigan as a post this (On my third shot, yee haw!)

   

True, but then again, we still thrived. Look at the other marriages of convenience out there. Usually where there are two distinct ethnic groups, one either oppresses the other, or kills the other, or enslaves the other.

Look at Africa, at Northern Ireland, at Eastern Europe, at Spain with their Basque. Look at Israel, and Iraq, and India. We're one of the very FEW states that pulled this off. Only Italy (Sicily), and Greece (Macedonia, some of their islands) worked out as well as us.

Until the French separatist bullshit, Montreal was basically the business capital of Canada. They had all the manufacturing in the country basically.



Eh, basically every single colonial state had Native issues. The US, Australia, South America, Africa.

You're right we treated them like shit, but everybody did, so saying Canada is better off for its Native treatment would of been a total farce. Plus, look at how we treat our Natives today. The Canadian government kisses their ass while they block off highways, destroy infrastructure, and whine for more money while their leadership is corrupt. If that happened in the US, they would of killed them off (at least the rebels), and I'm sure it'd be the same in Mexico or Brazil.

Thanks for the compliment, and believe me, I have great pride in Canada.

   

   

   

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