United North America
Confused @ Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:17 pm
$1:
I am for more economic integration with the US and the removal of most barriers to trading but I think the border needs to stay.
I would like to see a 100% free-trade union between Canada and the US but I would keep the canadian dollar since it's a good tool to help us because we are less productive than the US.
I would like to see a 100% free-trade union between Canada and the US but I would keep the canadian dollar since it's a good tool to help us because we are less productive than the US.
I strongly disagree. I've been doing a lot of reading on the dollar as a reserve currency, gold, and a whole bunch of things that is never on the mainstream media. The Federal Government of the US is running a deficit in the trillions (not the 300 Billion as reported in the media which was 1/10 of the actual deficit) The US is more or less bankrupt with China and Japan keeping it afloat. Not to mention if corporate and personal income taxes went up %100 it still wouldn't be enough to stop the deficit, let alone save the US. The US is heading toward times that will make the 1930s seem like a promenade. Integration is a mistake. Canada must come up with a plan now. (look this stuff up, it's quite real)
Arctic_Menace @ Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:28 pm
I'm lazy, can you provide links?
Proculation @ Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:37 pm
Confused Confused:
$1:
I am for more economic integration with the US and the removal of most barriers to trading but I think the border needs to stay.
I would like to see a 100% free-trade union between Canada and the US but I would keep the canadian dollar since it's a good tool to help us because we are less productive than the US.
I would like to see a 100% free-trade union between Canada and the US but I would keep the canadian dollar since it's a good tool to help us because we are less productive than the US.
I strongly disagree. I've been doing a lot of reading on the dollar as a reserve currency, gold, and a whole bunch of things that is never on the mainstream media. The Federal Government of the US is running a deficit in the trillions (not the 300 Billion as reported in the media which was 1/10 of the actual deficit) The US is more or less bankrupt with China and Japan keeping it afloat. Not to mention if corporate and personal income taxes went up %100 it still wouldn't be enough to stop the deficit, let alone save the US. The US is heading toward times that will make the 1930s seem like a promenade. Integration is a mistake. Canada must come up with a plan now. (look this stuff up, it's quite real)
You are mixing deficit and debt. The deficit is the money the government needs to borrow to cover its budget while the debt is all the debt the government has accumulated.
Even if the debt of the US is huge, it is still less than Canada's debt as expressbed as the percentage of GDP per capita. The US is not going bankrupt at all.
trapper120 @ Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:15 pm
Anyone signs a bill that will absorb Canada to into the US is gonna catch a bad case of 12 guage fever.. get me...
Confused @ Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:45 pm
$1:
You are mixing deficit and debt. The deficit is the money the government needs to borrow to cover its budget while the debt is all the debt the government has accumulated.
Even if the debt of the US is huge, it is still less than Canada's debt as expressbed as the percentage of GDP per capita. The US is not going bankrupt at all.
Even if the debt of the US is huge, it is still less than Canada's debt as expressbed as the percentage of GDP per capita. The US is not going bankrupt at all.
No, I am not confusing debt and deficit. I already told you that the US reported only 10 percent of their deficit. When Alan Greenspan retired he was asked if he regretted anything, he said he perhaps printed too many dollars during his reign. Most people would brush this off as non-relevant, but this is extremely relevant.
$1:
I'm lazy, can you provide links?
Here one link, one among many:
(cannot post)
This is the tip of the iceberg. I know people are more than skeptical when something of this magnitude is possible.. but it is true.
The US is a mess. Canada must do all it can to come up with a plan now.
PS: because I am new.. I cannot post links for 2 days. You'll have to wait Arctic.
Proculation @ Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:21 am
Confused Confused:
$1:
You are mixing deficit and debt. The deficit is the money the government needs to borrow to cover its budget while the debt is all the debt the government has accumulated.
Even if the debt of the US is huge, it is still less than Canada's debt as expressbed as the percentage of GDP per capita. The US is not going bankrupt at all.
Even if the debt of the US is huge, it is still less than Canada's debt as expressbed as the percentage of GDP per capita. The US is not going bankrupt at all.
No, I am not confusing debt and deficit. I already told you that the US reported only 10 percent of their deficit. When Alan Greenspan retired he was asked if he regretted anything, he said he perhaps printed too many dollars during his reign. Most people would brush this off as non-relevant, but this is extremely relevant.
$1:
I'm lazy, can you provide links?
Here one link, one among many:
(cannot post)
This is the tip of the iceberg. I know people are more than skeptical when something of this magnitude is possible.. but it is true.
The US is a mess. Canada must do all it can to come up with a plan now.
PS: because I am new.. I cannot post links for 2 days. You'll have to wait Arctic.
I can't wait you send a link about that statement !
Confused @ Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:03 pm
Ok, here it is:
w w w .worldnetdaily.c o m/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53366
Had to space it out so it wouldn't count as a 'link'.
Proculation @ Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:04 pm
Well, that's the first time I hear of that.
I've looked for that John Williams on the net and the only things I found are some reports and interviews made on odd websites and a link to his "hotmail" email address...
As for that, I will continue to believe what most great economics say, that the current US deficit is around 400$B and that the gross debt is around 8,500$B.
And for China keeping the US afloat, that's true but there's nothing wrong with that. US needs China for his consumers and China needs the US investors. That's like a mutual symbiosis relationship 
grainfedprairieboy @ Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:03 pm
[youtube width=425 height=350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29g57XTYgLE[/youtube]
Clogeroo @ Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:56 pm
I always thought they should be United Statesmen. 
Robodoon @ Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:11 pm
Its Communism. Its based on Third way.
tritium @ Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:23 pm
Proculation Proculation:
I am for more economic integration with the US and the removal of most barriers to trading but I think the border needs to stay.
I would like to see a 100% free-trade union between Canada and the US but I would keep the canadian dollar since it's a good tool to help us because we are less productive than the US.
I would like to see a 100% free-trade union between Canada and the US but I would keep the canadian dollar since it's a good tool to help us because we are less productive than the US.
...and to that the free movement of people for work.