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Mustang1 @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:09 pm

Omega Omega:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Thanks for the clarification, dipwad. That wasn't hard was it? I wonder if you've voted for anyone that has awarded compensation for residential school abuses though?

No Dipwad, I've only voted Green. Since they've never been awarded power they haven't had the chance.


Translation: Your party hasn't done squat for Natives and your rationalization is that they're an electoral failure.

   



Omega @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:33 pm

Mustang1 Mustang1:
Wait a second, why remove Dukabors or Catholics from the mix, my disingenuous chimp? Save the cheap argumentative fallacies for someone else, pleb, as many in my list WERE taken from their families and abused. In fact why omit women from the equation? Don’t pick and chose, chicken crap, as it only illustrates your inability to address my points.

I took a few examples you listed. That doesn't mean I'm not including anybody. Don't you understand the concept of an example? If we're going to knit-pick, you failed to included gays and atheists as well, for example. You might have the Mustang name but you aren’t very quick.

Mustang1 Mustang1:
The Japanese didn’t have their land or means of economic livelihood stolen?

I realize they did, but for natives it was much more widespread, for a much longer duration of time, and up until more recently.

Mustang1 Mustang1:
And haven’t Natives been compensated for the lands that have been deemed “stolen”?

God no. Only some of them have, assuming money and resources can make up for physical, mental, and sexual abuse, that is.

Mustang1 Mustang1:
You’re hinging this on cultural assimilation?!?!? That’s it? When compared to the treatment of women, Jews, Irish, Dukabors, Japanese, Chinese, this is the best you can muster? And haven’t others faced similar cultural assimilation tactics? Seriously, take the agenda and park it.

If you actually took the time to read and could actually comprehend what I've said, I have merely stated that natives have had it worse, and I’m not talking just cultural assimilation (or cultural genocide more like it) but many other types of mistreatment as well. Not that those other groups haven't been mistreated. What part don't you understand? And since we're on the topic of “disclusion,” why do you only mention women, Jews, Irish, Dukabors, Japanese, and Chinese? You use examples correctly but criticize me when I do the same, you hypocrite.

Mustang1 Mustang1:
And now you’re dismissing the claims of others?!?!? Women? They’ve had it easy compared to Natives? Are you for real? What kind of trashcan education produces that kind of woeful historical unawareness? Evidently, your bias precludes you from empathizing or acknowledging that many others have had just as bad if not worse than Natives. Sorry, goof, that’s your hang up, not mine.

Derrrrrr...

I'm recognizing the claims of others. Again, all I'm saying is that historically, natives have had it worse when added up after all these years. That doesn't mean I disregard what others have faced. You are so easy to debate. You are strawman all the way.

   



Omega @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:33 pm

Mustang1 Mustang1:
Translation: Your party hasn't done squat for Natives and your rationalization is that they're an electoral failure.

So?

I'm a man of principle.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:37 pm

Omega Omega:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Translation: Your party hasn't done squat for Natives and your rationalization is that they're an electoral failure.

So?

I'm a man of principal.


Principal? You have something going with a local principal? 8O

$1:
I'm recognizing the claims of others. Again, all I'm saying is that historically, natives have had it worse when added up after all these years.


Read some freaking history before you type this tripe.

   



Omega @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:39 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Read some freaking history before you type this tripe.

Really, which minority has had it the worst in Canada all these centuries?

(Spelling error fixed.)

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:48 pm

$1:
I'm recognizing the claims of others. Again, all I'm saying is that historically, natives have had it worse when added up after all these years.


Your comment doesn't specify Canada and your past arguements would lead one to believe that you feel Amerinds have the market cornered on human suffering. What they went through pales in comparison to the experiences of several ethnic groups. On top of this, what is being offered as compensation is like nothing any other group has received. Were we the cruel hearless overlords that some white apologists would have us believe, natives would be a footnote in a history text, rather than headlines in criminal activities like Caledonia.

   



Mustang1 @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:53 pm

Omega Omega:
I took a few examples you listed. That doesn't mean I'm not including anybody. Don't you understand the concept of an example? If we're going to knit-pick, you failed to included gays and atheists as well, for example. You might have the Mustang name but you aren’t very quick.



You excluded the ones that didn’t fit into your “argument” – plain and simple.

$1:
“I realize they did, but for natives it was much more widespread, for a much longer duration of time, and up until more recently.”


Really? You don’t see a difference between what occurred under previous Imperial governments in the 1700s and the 1940s? BIG difference.

$1:
“God no. Only some of them have, assuming money and resources can make up for physical, mental, and sexual abuse, that is.”


God yes. I’ll assume you’re referring to Residential schools in that hyperbolic mush and not only have they received an official apology, but they’ve been promised psychological counseling, monetary compensation and legal repercussions. Besides, haven’t Europeans settlers been victims of Native attacks? Haven’t OTHER native groups been culpable in eradicating their fellow natives? Where are their apologies or compensation?

$1:
“If you actually took the time to read and could actually comprehend what I've said, I have merely stated that natives have had it worse, and I’m not talking just cultural assimilation (or cultural genocide more like it) but many other types of mistreatment as well.”


Oh…it doesn’t take long to fly through your mush, but since you brought it up, all I’ve merely done is illustrate your agenda-pushing garbage. It’s exclusionary and dismissive. It seeks to paint Natives as the primary victims of past transgressions and it’s simply ahistorical. Bitch and whine till you’re blue in the face, but you’re peddling dreck.

$1:
“And since we're on the topic of “disclusion,” why do you only mention women, Jews, Irish, Dukabors, Japanese, and Chinese? You use examples correctly but criticize me when I do the same, you hypocrite.”


Those are merely the few I threw out as examples – want more?

$1:
I'm recognizing the claims of others. Again, all I'm saying is that historically, natives have had it worse when added up after all these years. That doesn't mean I disregard what others have faced. You are so easy to debate. You are strawman all the way.”


Actually, natives are only one group that has been mistreated historically. And women have had it worse, but I notice you keep cowering from that point, my dismissive chump.

And perhaps before chastising me for argumentative fallacies, you should abstain from using them yourself. This smells of hypocrisy and you reek of it.

   



Mustang1 @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:54 pm

Omega Omega:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Translation: Your party hasn't done squat for Natives and your rationalization is that they're an electoral failure.

So?

I'm a man of principle.


Actually, you're a goof peddling ignorance.

   



DangerMouse @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:54 pm

Mustang1 Mustang1:
Omega Omega:
Japanese, Chinese, Sikhs and Jews were taken from their families, and abused in government schools until the mid-80s here in Canada?



Wait a second, why remove Dukabors or Catholics from the mix, my disingenuous chimp? Save the cheap argumentative fallacies for someone else, pleb, as many in my list WERE taken from their families and abused. In fact why omit women from the equation? Don’t pick and chose, chicken crap, as it only illustrates your inability to address my points.

$1:
“They had most their land stolen from them here in Canada?”


The Japanese didn’t have their land or means of economic livelihood stolen? And haven’t Natives been compensated for the lands that have been deemed “stolen”?

$1:
“They were conquered here in Canada and prevented from speaking their language up until recently, for several hundred years straight”


You’re hinging this on cultural assimilation?!?!? That’s it? When compared to the treatment of women, Jews, Irish, Dukabors, Japanese, Chinese, this is the best you can muster? And haven’t others faced similar cultural assimilation tactics? Seriously, take the agenda and park it.

$1:
“Sure at times they've had it bad, and in some cases still do, and I sympathize with them, but to compare their historical experience here in Canada to them is stupidity at its best.”


And now you’re dismissing the claims of others?!?!? Women? They’ve had it easy compared to Natives? Are you for real? What kind of trashcan education produces that kind of woeful historical unawareness? Evidently, your bias precludes you from empathizing or acknowledging that many others have had just as bad if not worse than Natives. Sorry, goof, that’s your hang up, not mine.

$1:
“You're a joke.”


So says the assclown. How ironic.


[font=Comic Sans MS] Mustang you getting as bad as Sheperdsdog and that's gettn low! Or shall I compare your knowledge of aboriginal people along with the right-wing nutters? Those idiots base their knowledge on toilet wall grafitti and pulled their law degrees from a crackjack box. In other words they know "diddly-squat" when it comes to aboriginal issues.

Harper will nvr achieve a majority because all the sensible Canadians know who his advisor is, and in reality the rightwingers are worse than a bunch of kids. At least you make one valid statement with "just as bad if not worse." Now that you are starting to see through the fog spread your newfoundland oops I mean knowledge to all the other idiot, shepereddog right wing nutter types
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Mustang1 @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:55 pm

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
Omega Omega:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Translation: Your party hasn't done squat for Natives and your rationalization is that they're an electoral failure.

So?

I'm a man of principal.


Principal? You have something going with a local principal? 8O




He changed that just before i was gonna' comment - what a complete tool. Nice catch though.

   



Mustang1 @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:58 pm

DangerMouse DangerMouse:

[font=Comic Sans MS][size=12] Mustang you getting as bad as Sheperdsdog and that's gettn low! Or shall I compare your knowledge of aboriginal people along with the right-wing nutters? Those idiots base their knowledge on toilet wall grafitti and pulled their law degrees from a crackjack box. In other words they know "diddly-squat" when it comes to aboriginal issues.


Tell ya' what, turdbucket, i'll spot you two posts to demonstrate exactly where i've erred on objective information. You made the claim, so let's see you back it up

   



Omega @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:08 pm

Mustang1 Mustang1:
He changed that just before i was gonna' comment - what a complete tool. Nice catch though.

Sure you were going to, tool.

"I" is capitalized. A hyphen doesn’t separate two sentences. "Gonna" isn't an actual word.

   



Omega @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:08 pm

Brenda Brenda:
Omega Omega:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
Thanks for the clarification, dipwad. That wasn't hard was it? I wonder if you've voted for anyone that has awarded compensation for residential school abuses though?

No Dipwad, I've only voted Green. Since they've never been awarded power they haven't had the chance.


Well, too bad for you, but that is the way democracy works, and since we all have been fighting for that, it means the majority chose the government that runs now.

(too bad I can't vote though :evil:)

So if the majority of Canadians wanted to rape you then send you on a boat back to Holland, that would be OK with you?

   



Brenda @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:09 pm

Omega Omega:
Mustang1 Mustang1:
He changed that just before i was gonna' comment - what a complete tool. Nice catch though.

Sure you were going to, tool.

"I" is capitalized. A hyphen doesn’t separate two sentences. "Gonna" isn't an actual word.


Childish...

Misuse of a word or slang. BIG difference.

   



ShepherdsDog @ Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:12 pm

Don't you just love Grey Bowel Movement's wonderful command of the English language? But then, he likely learned it at the knee of his mother......you know, the one one who arrived from Europe reeking of shit and piss.

   



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