Why should'nt Alberta seperate?
ziggy @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:19 pm
IcedCap IcedCap:
ziggy ziggy:
King Ralph is against seperation.
you know ziggy the only argument you've given so far for Alberta separating is that Liberals keep getting elected from Ontario
See,that's where your wrong.If the Libs were honest they may have some support here. We may not have much pull here but we can still pull some strings.
Tricks @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:19 pm
I would say stay, but i can't give you a reason to stay, just like you cant give me a reason to leave.
Iwthout you, we will be doomed to a reign of libs NOOOOOOOO
ziggy ziggy:
You have to answer my question first as I made the topic.
Why should we stay? Why should'nt we leave?
I did bud but you ignored it, bottom of Page 2
QBC @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:20 pm
I just went to the Calgary sun website and did a search and nothing. No poll and really no articles either?
ziggy @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:24 pm
IcedCap IcedCap:
ziggy ziggy:
You have to answer my question first as I made the topic.
Why should we stay? Why should'nt we leave?
I did bud but you ignored it, bottom of Page 2
I didnt ignore either,you posed it as a question or 2 or 3 and I asked for a reason not a bunch of questions.I asked the question,if you can answer it then I will attempt to answer any of your questions.
DerbyX @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:28 pm
ziggy ziggy:
IcedCap IcedCap:
ziggy ziggy:
King Ralph is against seperation.
you know ziggy the only argument you've given so far for Alberta separating is that Liberals keep getting elected from Ontario
See,that's where your wrong.If the Libs were honest they may have some support here. We may not have much pull here but we can still pull some strings.
No. The province has never voted the Liberals in. Between 1972 and 1993 not a single Liberal was elected. You have to go back to 1940 to even find a time when the Libs tied the Social Credit party in a federal election. Alberta has never ever supported a Liberal gov't and it is no wonder you are always dissatisfied with the federal gov't because none of the MPs you elect ever sit in the governing party and when they do (the PC) you simply divorce yourselves from all their flaws. Anti-Liberal hatred in Alberta is almost standard thinking. BTW, if your response is "All libs are crooks and always have" you might as well be holding the opinion that "all blacks are crooks". It isn't all that different.
ziggy @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:30 pm
I guess I'm a bit pissed after Scott Reid said Alberta could "blow" him. And Canada wonders why Alberta doe'snt want anything to do with the ROC.
ziggy ziggy:
I didnt ignore either,you posed it as a question or 2 or 3 and I asked for a reason not a bunch of questions.I asked the question,if you can answer it then I will attempt to answer any of your questions.
o...k...
because much of the current Albertan discontent with confederation isn't based on constitutional issues but based on the a party that most of you hate winning the last 4 elections. Let's be honest as long as there're Albertans alive who lived through the NEP and its aftermath the Liberals will never prosper in the province regardless of what they do.
If a Conservative govt was in Ottawa, I doubt Alberta would still have unresolvable constitutional, fiscal and cultural issues with the rest of Canada.
ziggy ziggy:
I guess I'm a bit pissed after Scott Reid said Alberta could "blow" him. And Canada wonders why Alberta doe'snt want anything to do with the ROC.

So now Scott Reid speaks for 29,000,000 people.
ziggy @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:32 pm
DerbyX DerbyX:
ziggy ziggy:
IcedCap IcedCap:
ziggy ziggy:
King Ralph is against seperation.
you know ziggy the only argument you've given so far for Alberta separating is that Liberals keep getting elected from Ontario
See,that's where your wrong.If the Libs were honest they may have some support here. We may not have much pull here but we can still pull some strings.
No. The province has never voted the Liberals in. Between 1972 and 1993 not a single Liberal was elected. You have to go back to 1940 to even find a time when the Libs tied the Social Credit party in a federal election. Alberta has never ever supported a Liberal gov't and it is no wonder you are always dissatisfied with the federal gov't because none of the MPs you elect ever sit in the governing party and when they do (the PC) you simply divorce yourselves from all their flaws. Anti-Liberal hatred in Alberta is almost standard thinking. BTW, if your response is "All libs are crooks and always have" you might as well be holding the opinion that "all blacks are crooks". It isn't all that different.
All libs arent crooks but if you support a party run by crooks then are you not supporting the crooks?
DerbyX @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:38 pm
ziggy ziggy:
DerbyX DerbyX:
ziggy ziggy:
IcedCap IcedCap:
ziggy ziggy:
King Ralph is against seperation.
you know ziggy the only argument you've given so far for Alberta separating is that Liberals keep getting elected from Ontario
See,that's where your wrong.If the Libs were honest they may have some support here. We may not have much pull here but we can still pull some strings.
No. The province has never voted the Liberals in. Between 1972 and 1993 not a single Liberal was elected. You have to go back to 1940 to even find a time when the Libs tied the Social Credit party in a federal election. Alberta has never ever supported a Liberal gov't and it is no wonder you are always dissatisfied with the federal gov't because none of the MPs you elect ever sit in the governing party and when they do (the PC) you simply divorce yourselves from all their flaws. Anti-Liberal hatred in Alberta is almost standard thinking. BTW, if your response is "All libs are crooks and always have" you might as well be holding the opinion that "all blacks are crooks". It isn't all that different.
All libs arent crooks but if you support a party run by crooks then are you not supporting the crooks?
I don't consider the party to be crooks. Many Albertans have used king Ralphs record on the economy as almost the sole reason to keep supporting him. The same goes for much support for the Libs. They have done extremely well budget/economy wise.
ziggy @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:39 pm
IcedCap IcedCap:
ziggy ziggy:
I guess I'm a bit pissed after Scott Reid said Alberta could "blow" him. And Canada wonders why Alberta doe'snt want anything to do with the ROC.

So now Scott Reid speaks for 29,000,000 people.
If you didnt denounce it then you would be one of those 29,000,000 people.
So if I made my sig "Iced cap can just blow me".....that wouldnt bother you?
DerbyX @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:41 pm
ziggy ziggy:
IcedCap IcedCap:
ziggy ziggy:
I guess I'm a bit pissed after Scott Reid said Alberta could "blow" him. And Canada wonders why Alberta doe'snt want anything to do with the ROC.

So now Scott Reid speaks for 29,000,000 people.
If you didnt denounce it then you would be one of those 29,000,000 people.
So if I made my sig "Iced cap can just blow me".....that wouldnt bother you?
It might bother him but I doubt he considers it to be anyone's opinion but your own. He isn't saying "Well Ziggy said 'blow me' so is it any wonder Ontario doesn't want anything to do with Alberta".
ziggy @ Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:41 pm
DerbyX DerbyX:
ziggy ziggy:
DerbyX DerbyX:
ziggy ziggy:
IcedCap IcedCap:
ziggy ziggy:
King Ralph is against seperation.
you know ziggy the only argument you've given so far for Alberta separating is that Liberals keep getting elected from Ontario
See,that's where your wrong.If the Libs were honest they may have some support here. We may not have much pull here but we can still pull some strings.
No. The province has never voted the Liberals in. Between 1972 and 1993 not a single Liberal was elected. You have to go back to 1940 to even find a time when the Libs tied the Social Credit party in a federal election. Alberta has never ever supported a Liberal gov't and it is no wonder you are always dissatisfied with the federal gov't because none of the MPs you elect ever sit in the governing party and when they do (the PC) you simply divorce yourselves from all their flaws. Anti-Liberal hatred in Alberta is almost standard thinking. BTW, if your response is "All libs are crooks and always have" you might as well be holding the opinion that "all blacks are crooks". It isn't all that different.
All libs arent crooks but if you support a party run by crooks then are you not supporting the crooks?
I don't consider the party to be crooks. Many Albertans have used king Ralphs record on the economy as almost the sole reason to keep supporting him. The same goes for much support for the Libs. They have done extremely well budget/economy wise.
Derby,Google him and corruption,see what you find.Dont try Martin though,the massive input of scams may crash your computer.
ziggy ziggy:
If you didnt denounce it then you would be one of those 29,000,000 people.
So if I made my sig "Iced cap can just blow me".....that wouldnt bother you?
so now if you don't publicly denounce something then you automatically support it
well I must be a supporter of...
child labour,
bestiality,
holocaust deniers,
incest,
the seal hunt,
mass murder
etc etc