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More funny shit right there.

The CBC hardly strives to make the effort in appearing balanced if you want examples let me know.

I wouldn't normally have a problem with that except that I pay for the CBC, for a state funded media outlet I'd expect at least unbiased reporting which they are not.

   

Fox News has the highest ratings in the US since it's the only major right leaning news outlet there it's no suprise.

So it would only make sense to have "Fox North" up here, since there really isn't any in the first place. People of course are going to mistake that with wanting to be American though, just watch. Whereas I'm referring to the political leanings of a private news organization and the type of viewer that would attract. Adept Canadians to have working there would be Michael Coren, I think that's the english dude your talking about from Ontario, Steve Pakin, Ezra Levant, Tarek Fatah and throw in a little Mike Duffy from time to time.

Woops forgot Mercedes Stephenson, smart and gorgeous.

   

I'm sure there are many great intentions on their part, but just because they have good intentions does not mean that you get to ignore bias. The base of the fact is, that bias will and does still exist, according to many users here.

I don't understand why you are saying why you are otherwise. Sure, one side is going to be worse than the other, probably, but the fact of the matter is is that that bias exists and you simply cannot rationalize it away. It doesn't matter if it's intentional, built on good intentions, or unintentional and accidental, that bias still exists.

I do not defend Fox, for the record -- I know you seperated me out of that group, so no worries. Nor will I defend CBC, which, whether or not it is intentional or not, has shown a definitive slant to the left, and as my examples before mentioned (and I'm sure Bodah can supply more), it's easy to see why people see that. There is a large portion of people who believe that CBC shows a decidedly liberal balance, the other threads here show that – whether or not they actually strive for unbiased news is again something you’d have to be prescient to see – I’m not going to make a judgement either way.

My point in this thread was to show that people see that there is bias on the other side, and that the left is not a grouping of paragons of virtue for political parties as was implied. Bias exists on that network, that is what is believed by many, even some of us who have leftist trends. Simply ignoring it because it’s a different type or not as bad makes no sense to me – it’s still bias, and that’s ALL I’m trying to say. Don't sweep it away because of the possibility of a more openly biased newscaster.

   

Yeah, that's the guy. Thanks. He'd be great.

I reiterate on Mark Steyn. I heard him subbing for Limbaugh. He was really good. I hear he's Canadian.

Thumbs up on the babe too.

   

"openly biased" is just a code word for Propaganda. The moment you add Bias as an Intent, is the moment when you've crossed the line.

   

The ones in the Trailer Parks?

   

We don't Need , O'Reilly , Coulter and there assorted ilk bring their coded bigotry up here. But if they do i cant wait for Coulter and her clones to say something like this

This is the kind of racism that needs to be out in the light, so if Fox news thinks it can get away with the shit they do down south. They're in for a very bid surprise



And as a typical Fox commentator

   

Is that what you think of people that lean to the right? Kind of arrogant don't you think?

   

Looking at Fox news?

Lean? yes.

Driving a car at 90 miles an hour, which is on fire, off a cliff to the right. And that's where the CPC is heading.

Not a bit.

If the CPC had managed not to become arrogant themselves, by dropping millions of dollars on a Faux lake, breaking their promise on open tenders for our new fighters, being in found of contempt of parliament by trying to withhold documents on the Detainee Issue from other members of Parliament and keep the religious nut-nags at the back of the caucus then they would have once again had my support. As you may recall i was a supporter of the party as long as the kept reminding themselves that they we're a Minority Party. Thy did not and do not have the full confidence of Canadians But they haven't, They've never caught on with the Moderates of the country, and yet those moderates gave them a chance at forming a government if they were kept kept tightly in check

And i don't want Canada to become like the US where basically a thoughtless (as in without original ideas)women nearly becomes the second most powerful person in the western world because she's has "Homey"- "Folksy" and "Aw Gosh" attitude to her? With Fox new leading the charge?All one has to do as to look at what the Radical right has done to the States. They've seriously managed to fuck up their own country


So if there is a small minority of Canadians out there who subscribe the fox news viso9n of what "Right" means? Well that pretty much means i'm in your face
We don't need in Canada the kind of dumbing and coded hate down the Americans have let themselves become victim to from Fox. Af if that kind of talk gets the skirts up of the Fundmentalist Right, its okay by me.




And besides you didn't comment on her anti-semitism, and Coulter is as 'leaning' right and prejudiced as Limbaugh, Hannity as any of them.

   

This is not about Fox news or the Conservative party. In case you aren't aware this is about a Canadian company that wants to start a news channel that is marketed to right leaning Canadians. This is not Fox News, it is an independent Canadian media company. This is also not a branch of the CPC. There are many right wing Canadians that probably don't support the CPC, and I can assure you that most right wing Canadians don't live in mobile homes just as much as left leaning Canadians aren't all pot smoking hippies.

   

In fact, and again, CBC polled, asking people if they'll watch a Fox News-like station. 71% say they will. That's a mighty big trailer park.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/pointofview/2010 ... anada.html

That's another thing that's going to be fun about this. When this new network rules the news ratings up here like Fox News does down south, it's going to be oh so much fun rubbing noses in that fact.

The same tiny group of lefties will pull at their hair (assuming they have some), whine, and squeal, and try to make enough noise to make themselves seem large, hurling insults in every direction, but we the majority will just scratch our heads, and say, "Yeah, but they're # 1 in the ratings".

   

Ah, sorry! I thought we were discussing what I had posted, and I was kind of arrogant in thinking you weren't looking at a different picture. The only point I wanted to make was that the bias existed, and not the ethical or moral implications otherwise -- people who choose one bias as worse than the other still need to recognize that there is bias to the media (and to be quite honest, I still feel that the CBC does intentionally swing to the left a bit in their articles).

All news should be viewed with a cynical eye, since pretty much all stations are going to lean in some direction. Even if their stated aim to the public is objective broadcasting, the moment you have interviews, make decisions on which stories are more important or other forms of prioritization you begin going down the path of personal opinions deciding on what comes first on the news, and how it is presented. This can be intentional, or unintentional -- I just don't like CBC being viewed purely in contrast to this proposed station plan in the beginning when all news should be met with tons of questions and reservations on your own thoughts until you've gotten a little bit more info on the situaton yourself.

   

Probably like the other quarter or maybe third of Canadians. If half of Canadians were truly Conservative, there wouldn't be a minority government...

   

Hmm...I don't think "Fox News North" would be as powerful as Fox News because there isn't that many major television networks in Canada to begin with. On top of this, I'd say the conservative leaning Canadian population at MOST is 35-40%. So if "Fox News North" is able to grab that chunk fully, the other Canadian news networks will be able to sustain the hit because there aren't as many of them. There are just too many US news networks leaning left/center (however you see it) dividing only a relatively small chunk of the US news watching audience.

   

   

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