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US christens '9/11 steel' warship

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Bacardi4206 @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:42 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Personally, I think you can keep your right to bear arms and all those little freedoms because I like walking down a street without having to worry about some crackhead with a gun pointing a gun to my head and asking for my wallet.

I also like knowing that no matter what my financial situation is, I can always go to the hospital and get treated. Those high tax's that we pay give us so much more in return.

American's will have more money in there pockets to buy the luxury they want, but however when they get sick, or shot or stabbed. There fucked unless there rich or powerfull.

I don't think people are Anti-American because there envious of your freedoms. When I think of your freedom to bear arms, only thing I think of is allowing people to gain tools easier to rob people, stores and banks. Shoot anybody they wish, because you know how stupid people are. Expecially if there desperate.


Think whatever you wish so long as you don't emulate Mr. Pound and try to change our laws to make you feel better about your own.


Trust me, I would never change America's laws. Unless of course I was American. It's your country, your laws. You do with them as you please.

   



ManifestDestiny @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:44 pm

saturn_656 saturn_656:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Personally, I think you can keep your right to bear arms and all those little freedoms because I like walking down a street without having to worry about some crackhead with a gun pointing a gun to my head and asking for my wallet.



You think a criminal cares about gun control?
and of course freedoms we have that you dont are "those little freedoms"

   



BartSimpson @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:47 pm

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
15% of Canadians are deep-down at heart Anti-American


Which is honest of them. I can respect that.

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
80% of Canadians are against the American Government and that's IT.


But that puts them immediately at odds with the 53% of Americans who elected that government. It is disingenuous to say they dislike the government while they supposedly respect the views of the people who are expressed in that government.

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
5% Either support the United States fully or responded with something else.


Five percent.
That many, huh? :wink:

   



Bacardi4206 @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:47 pm

ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Personally, I think you can keep your right to bear arms and all those little freedoms because I like walking down a street without having to worry about some crackhead with a gun pointing a gun to my head and asking for my wallet.



You think a criminal cares about gun control?
and of course freedoms we have that you dont are "those little freedoms"


No a criminal doesn't care about them, but I think it's a little bit harder for a criminal to get a gun that way. Not many Canadian's buy guns, expecially in the city areas. So Canada doesn't have a overstock of guns for sale that can just be bough off by random individuals.

"Hello sir, where are you going with that gun?"
"Oh hi Mr. Cop, uh yeah I was just doing some hunting... yeah that's it"
"Hunting? in the city? may I see your gun lisence please?"

   



Bacardi4206 @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:48 pm

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
15% of Canadians are deep-down at heart Anti-American


Which is honest of them. I can respect that.

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
80% of Canadians are against the American Government and that's IT.


But that puts them immediately at odds with the 53% of Americans who elected that government. It is disingenuous to say they dislike the government while they supposedly respect the views of the people who are expressed in that government.

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
5% Either support the United States fully or responded with something else.


Five percent.
That many, huh? :wink:


5% is actually a lot of people if look at it.

   



ManifestDestiny @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:51 pm

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
ManifestDestiny ManifestDestiny:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Personally, I think you can keep your right to bear arms and all those little freedoms because I like walking down a street without having to worry about some crackhead with a gun pointing a gun to my head and asking for my wallet.



You think a criminal cares about gun control?
and of course freedoms we have that you dont are "those little freedoms"


No a criminal doesn't care about them, but I think it's a little bit harder for a criminal to get a gun that way. Not many Canadian's buy guns, expecially in the city areas. So Canada doesn't have a overstock of guns for sale that can just be bough off by random individuals.

"Hello sir, where are you going with that gun?"
"Oh hi Mr. Cop, uh yeah I was just doing some hunting... yeah that's it"
"Hunting? in the city? may I see your gun lisence please?"



What is there a cop on every corner?
what if the criminal has a hidden pistol?
I have a full carry permit and carry often talk to cops while I carry they never notice.

   



ManifestDestiny @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:52 pm

bet you i could buy a illeagal gun in TO in under one hour!

   



saturn_656 @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:53 pm

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Personally, I think you can keep your right to bear arms and all those little freedoms because I like walking down a street without having to worry about some crackhead with a gun pointing a gun to my head and asking for my wallet.


And you think that doesn't happen here? Spend much time in Toronto or Winnipeg? Think before you type... :roll:


I actually live in Toronto, though I never said it doesn't happen here. It just happens less, mind doing some research on America's Gun Death total, and then research Canada's and compare them. Think before YOU type...


I did. Don't get pissy cause I blew a hole in your argument with a blowtorch. :roll:

Anything that happens there can just as easily as happen here, so saying "you don't have to worry about that here" is complete BS.

   



kal @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:53 pm

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Halo_3 Halo_3:
romanP romanP:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
romanP romanP:
A memorial is one thing. Memorials do not float about the ocean threatening to blow stuff up out of revenge for past greivances.

In fact, the memorial to the 14 women who were murdered in Ecole Polytechnique is an extremely poor comparison. The result of that was not to hunt down all mysoginists and kill them, but rather to raise awareness about violence against women.

Using steel from the World Trade Center does not cause people to be less violent, or make people think about the causes of violence, because rather than just being made into a memorial, it has been made into a weapon, an instrument of violence.


Fortunately, Americans are made of sterner and stronger stuff than such as you.


Unfortunately, macho bullshit hasn't really accomplished much of anything, and most of the world still hates your stupid country.
Haha, I find it extremely hilarious that a Canadian is calling someone's country stupid. Look at yours first, lol.


Care to explain?


He's just angry because he knows:

1) We have better beer
2) We all have bigger penises

   



2Cdo @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:55 pm

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
No a criminal doesn't care about them, but I think it's a little bit harder for a criminal to get a gun that way. Not many Canadian's buy guns, expecially in the city areas. So Canada doesn't have a overstock of guns for sale that can just be bough off by random individuals.


It is very easy for criminals to get guns in Canada, to think otherwise is foolish. Also, in Canada there are over 30 million weapons spread out over several million gun owners. Your last sentence is just anti-gun gibberish. :roll:
$1:
"Hello sir, where are you going with that gun?"
"Oh hi Mr. Cop, uh yeah I was just doing some hunting... yeah that's it"
"Hunting? in the city? may I see your gun lisence please?"


Your ignorance of gun laws shows with your moronic scenario. :roll:

   



kal @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:55 pm

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Personally, I think you can keep your right to bear arms and all those little freedoms because I like walking down a street without having to worry about some crackhead with a gun pointing a gun to my head and asking for my wallet.



You think a criminal cares about gun control?
and of course freedoms we have that you dont are "those little freedoms"


No a criminal doesn't care about them, but I think it's a little bit harder for a criminal to get a gun that way. Not many Canadian's buy guns, expecially in the city areas. So Canada doesn't have a overstock of guns for sale that can just be bough off by random individuals.

"Hello sir, where are you going with that gun?"
"Oh hi Mr. Cop, uh yeah I was just doing some hunting... yeah that's it"
"Hunting? in the city? may I see your gun lisence please?"


Pretty inaccurate. There is no supporting facts that backup tighter gun control=harder for criminals to get guns. Some folks from toronto I've been talking to mentioned that some gang members there are starting to get snub-nose AK's. Those are already illegal in Canada... so yea...

   



kal @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:59 pm

romanP romanP:
kal kal:
As for the ship.. it's 7.5 tons of 42,000. That means that 0.0002% of the ship is made with WTC steel. Anyone working in the construction business now knows that steel is a pain in the ass to get, so why not recycle a bit of it? There was a lot of salvagable steel left over from WTC so it makes sense that a very small fraction of it makes it's way into shipping. Sure, it's being used as a propaganda tool -but as Bart pointed out, this is a bit of an American tradition. Just because we'd do things differently here in Canada doesn't mean it's wrong in the United States.


But this isn't just any kind of recycling, or else someone would also point out that 2,645,276.4 Coke cans went into making the ship as well.

If I had known anyone that had died in the World Trade Centre, I would be offended that anyone would emphasise, for nationalistic purposes, that its steel had been used to make a battleship. In fact, I don't know anyone who died in the World Trade Centre, and I still find the whole idea offensive.


No one pointed it out because:

1) Ships are made of steel, coke cans aren't, and
2) In the US of A, that ship is symbolic for them. Just because you don't understand or support it doesn't make it wrong.

   



Bacardi4206 @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:03 pm

kal kal:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Personally, I think you can keep your right to bear arms and all those little freedoms because I like walking down a street without having to worry about some crackhead with a gun pointing a gun to my head and asking for my wallet.



You think a criminal cares about gun control?
and of course freedoms we have that you dont are "those little freedoms"


No a criminal doesn't care about them, but I think it's a little bit harder for a criminal to get a gun that way. Not many Canadian's buy guns, expecially in the city areas. So Canada doesn't have a overstock of guns for sale that can just be bough off by random individuals.

"Hello sir, where are you going with that gun?"
"Oh hi Mr. Cop, uh yeah I was just doing some hunting... yeah that's it"
"Hunting? in the city? may I see your gun lisence please?"


Pretty inaccurate. There is no supporting facts that backup tighter gun control=harder for criminals to get guns. Some folks from toronto I've been talking to mentioned that some gang members there are starting to get snub-nose AK's. Those are already illegal in Canada... so yea...


Go to America and you will see gangs or even people with AK-47's, you also got people with M16's, and even military grade sniper rifles. They also got gernades, uzi's and pretty much every weapon they want to have. There might not be a difference between how people can get guns, although I disagree on that. Canada however doesn't even come close to have as many guns in the country as America does and certonly not as good ones. The best Canadian's can do is find a way to buy guns from other countries like Ireland does and get them into the country.

   



kal @ Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:04 pm

Halo_3 Halo_3:
1)Get a new argument, that is the whole of Canada's argument is that you have better beer than us. Your beer can't hold a candle to European beer.


I thought I would offer an argument with as much substance as yours. You're telling me to grow up? You won't even defen your point. The extent of your argument is "you don't get it so you're stupid" :roll:

$1:
2)You pulled that out of your ass, you have seen 300 million peoples' penises you fucking idiot? Grow up.


Yes, I did pull that out of my ass, kindof like your lame attempt at bashing Canada. And I came to my conclusion because the kind of attitude you're demonstrating is the kind I usually see on those suffering from penisenvy and are mad at the world because of it.

If you want a good, well thought out response, make a good, well thought out point.

   



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