Should the CBC be privatized
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fifeboy @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:53 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
Ya had to drag the coalition back into it, didn't you.
Coming to the cradle of Parliamentary Democracy.
ridenrain ridenrain:
What the CRTC should do is get the hell out of the way so we can have more channels that can pander to whatever market they can make money on.
Yep, I am sure you would support the start of
http://www.aljazeera.net/portal
Remember what a Puritan is, eh!
ridenrain ridenrain:
As we were just reminded, the CBC dosen't speak for me or anybody I know.
ridenrain @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:56 pm
Since most of the CBC staff leave to go AlJazeera any ways, I'm seeing less and less difference anyways.
Apollo @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:00 pm
fifeboy fifeboy:
ridenrain ridenrain:
Ya had to drag the coalition back into it, didn't you.
Coming to the cradle of Parliamentary Democracy.
ridenrain ridenrain:
What the CRTC should do is get the hell out of the way so we can have more channels that can pander to whatever market they can make money on.
Yep, I am sure you would support the start of
http://www.aljazeera.net/portal
Remember what a Puritan is, eh!
ridenrain ridenrain:
As we were just reminded, the CBC dosen't speak for me or anybody I know.
3 guys bowing to Jesus Christ? I thought the left wanted seperation of religion and state.
herbie @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:11 pm
Fuck off with the "left bias" shit.
Get this: there IS NO CBC from Vanderhoof - Fort St James - Burns Lake cuz they cut the funding and the transmitters are off. During an election, a Grey Cup and a Parliamentary crisis.
You can take you "just PAY for a satellite" attitude and stick it up your arse till it hurts.
I have satellite. I pay for free tv. I pay for premium tv and I pay to watch even more commercials on the channels you buy extra than on the one that supposedly make money off the ads.
That's what happens when you keep that blockheaded line of thought, everyone pays more and service gets worse while someone lines their pockets with cash. And not one of you anti-CBC posters is a major shareholder of Global or CTV are you?
So you want to fuck everyone else, so that someone else benefits and your dumb enough to think somehow you're going to save anything out of your pocket?
Sapio @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:19 pm
Biblesmasher Biblesmasher:
Sapio Sapio:
That's not true at all. CTV created a show like Corner Gas, the Current Degrassi and Global has The Guard. They can create Canadian programming as well or better than CBC. Or how ShowCase with Trailerpark boys.
Im not sure because I dont watch much of those kinds of shows, but doesnt cbc just have more? seems like there is one or two shows on each netwrok then thats it.
I would say is is close to equal. CBC may have a few more shows, but they are show that do not get the viewership as the other networks.
Another factor that has to be looked at is the internet. People talk about how they can not get channels so they miss TV shows. Most shows can be found online if that is a problem.
PluggyRug @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:37 pm
herbie herbie:
Fuck off with the "left bias" shit.
Get this: there IS NO CBC from Vanderhoof - Fort St James - Burns Lake cuz they cut the funding and the transmitters are off. During an election, a Grey Cup and a Parliamentary crisis.
You can take you "just PAY for a satellite" attitude and stick it up your arse till it hurts.
I have satellite. I pay for free tv. I pay for premium tv and I pay to watch even more commercials on the channels you buy extra than on the one that supposedly make money off the ads.
That's what happens when you keep that blockheaded line of thought, everyone pays more and service gets worse while someone lines their pockets with cash. And not one of you anti-CBC posters is a major shareholder of Global or CTV are you?
So you want to fuck everyone else, so that someone else benefits and your dumb enough to think somehow you're going to save anything out of your pocket?
Get this: there IS NO CBC from Vanderhoof - Fort St James - Burns Lake cuz they cut the funding and the transmitters are off. During an election, a Grey Cup and a Parliamentary crisis.
You can take you "just PAY for a satellite" attitude and stick it up your arse till it hurts.
I have satellite. I pay for free tv. I pay for premium tv and I pay to watch even more commercials on the channels you buy extra than on the one that supposedly make money off the ads.
That's what happens when you keep that blockheaded line of thought, everyone pays more and service gets worse while someone lines their pockets with cash. And not one of you anti-CBC posters is a major shareholder of Global or CTV are you?
So you want to fuck everyone else, so that someone else benefits and your dumb enough to think somehow you're going to save anything out of your pocket?
So sell the satellite. Put a wire coat hanger in the TV input. Problem solved.
Then when the CBC goes all Conservative...........
fifeboy @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:00 pm
ridenrain ridenrain:
Since most of the CBC staff leave to go AlJazeera any ways, I'm seeing less and less difference anyways.
Most? Call B.S. on that one eh! But what the hey! Perhaps we will have the CBC equivalent of "Carpet Newsmanning" the Arab world. Could end up in some useful results.
Oh, I get it, it's hyperbole from the famous Ridenrain wit!
fifeboy @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:05 pm
Apollo Apollo:
3 guys bowing to Jesus Christ? I thought the left wanted seperation of religion and state.
Me, I'm both a leftest and a Catholic.
fifeboy @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:07 pm
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Then when the CBC goes all Conservative...........
HyperionTheEvil @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:28 pm
bootlegga bootlegga:
Yogi Yogi:
From MY perspective. CBC's main stumbling block is 'in the delivery'. CBC is first and foremost a news station, but that same news is to be had on every other station on the dial. Where CBC differs on that front is that they tend to go much deeper into a story. Often creating a full program about a single item. What could be an interesting 'listen', more often than not, quickly turns into a 'turn the dial to anything else' situation. The delivery is dry and boring! I can really get into 'talk radio', but unfortunately the people on air at CBC come across as "I don't really want to be here doing this, but I need the money"!
By now you would think that CBC would have clued in! They don't necessarily need to change their music format, although a bit of C&W or 'golden oldies' wouldn't hurt! What they really should do, again this is only MY opinion, is hire some real DJ's, ( God knows they have the budget for it), thereby attracting more listeners, which would lead to attracting more advertisers, and in the end, hopefully, become self-sufficient.
By now you would think that CBC would have clued in! They don't necessarily need to change their music format, although a bit of C&W or 'golden oldies' wouldn't hurt! What they really should do, again this is only MY opinion, is hire some real DJ's, ( God knows they have the budget for it), thereby attracting more listeners, which would lead to attracting more advertisers, and in the end, hopefully, become self-sufficient.
Nope, CBC is not a news station first and foremost, it is a television channel with news on it. If it was a news channel, news would occupy more than 3 or 4 hours a day.
http://www.cbc.radio-canada.ca/docs/pol ... date.shtml
That's CBC radio's mandate, but I'm sure CBC TV is pretty close to that.
The CBC's job is to provide a national broadcaster, in both English and French, to provide a variety of programming, not just news. Perhaps if CTV and Global had more Canadian made programs, the CBC wouldn't be as important as it is, but the private networks have only as much Canadian content as they are forced to. CBC regularly produces documentaries, period dramas, comedy shows, etc all made in Canada, by Canadians for Canadians.
Maybe you like watching hours and hours of Survivor, So you Think you can Dance, and Idol, but I prefer watching TV that doesn't rot my brain and/or insult my intelligence while I watch. I'm obviously in the minority, but the CBC does a far better job of producing Canadian content than the private networks do.
And I have to agree with Poquas, the biggest reason the CBC is needed because it fills a gap that private broadcasters won't touch (because they can't make enough of a profit on it).
It fills the airwaves with nothing more than Anne of green gables grab, tax-payer funded crap at that. If the CBC is so damn good at what they do let the marketplace determine thier abilities
HyperionTheEvil @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:34 pm
fifeboy fifeboy:
MacDonaill MacDonaill:
Jesus. How many times are we going to debate this shit? No one will ever change their mind on the subject anyway. Shut up already.
Well, lets see! Ride wants to push his idea that there are no ideas beside Liberal ideas on the CBC. One can point out endless examples of interviews with serious rightwing thinkers being presented, or that the now deceased Barbara Frum being the host of one of the longest lasting public affairs show on CBC radio, and Ride and the other Right Thunkers will just ignore the evidence.
One other point needs to be looked at. The CBC is Canadian and therefore should reflect the opinions of Canadians. The Connies keep yelping about how the Coalition of the Liberals and NDP has brought up the Conservatives in the polls to a whopping 40%. Which means that 60% are more left leaning. 40% can produce a majority government, but it still does not represent the views of the majority of people.
I was wondering when the extreme left would start blaming the CPC for this. right now we are in a finincial crisis. the CBC is luxury. We don't need it, I certianly don't need the latest rehash of teen angst on from Degrassi high to remind im Canadian.
And by the way smart boy 20& of those 'left' Canadians are seperatists. Discount them and the Green party who have no base for support to get a Commens seat that leaves you with less that twenty percent per left and extreme left. so my narrow minded friend it's you who are the true miniorty here
ziggy @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:37 pm
So when tv go's all digital will CBC still be broadcasting in UHF?
HyperionTheEvil @ Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:41 pm
fifeboy fifeboy:
Apollo Apollo:
3 guys bowing to Jesus Christ? I thought the left wanted seperation of religion and state.
Me, I'm both a leftest and a Catholic.
Must be an interesting mix to be member of that church. Tries to deny womens thier rights and hides pedophile priests
herbie @ Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:33 am
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
herbie herbie:
Fuck off with the "left bias" shit.
Get this: there IS NO CBC from Vanderhoof - Fort St James - Burns Lake cuz they cut the funding and the transmitters are off. During an election, a Grey Cup and a Parliamentary crisis.
You can take you "just PAY for a satellite" attitude and stick it up your arse till it hurts.
I have satellite. I pay for free tv. I pay for premium tv and I pay to watch even more commercials on the channels you buy extra than on the one that supposedly make money off the ads.
That's what happens when you keep that blockheaded line of thought, everyone pays more and service gets worse while someone lines their pockets with cash. And not one of you anti-CBC posters is a major shareholder of Global or CTV are you?
So you want to fuck everyone else, so that someone else benefits and your dumb enough to think somehow you're going to save anything out of your pocket?
Get this: there IS NO CBC from Vanderhoof - Fort St James - Burns Lake cuz they cut the funding and the transmitters are off. During an election, a Grey Cup and a Parliamentary crisis.
You can take you "just PAY for a satellite" attitude and stick it up your arse till it hurts.
I have satellite. I pay for free tv. I pay for premium tv and I pay to watch even more commercials on the channels you buy extra than on the one that supposedly make money off the ads.
That's what happens when you keep that blockheaded line of thought, everyone pays more and service gets worse while someone lines their pockets with cash. And not one of you anti-CBC posters is a major shareholder of Global or CTV are you?
So you want to fuck everyone else, so that someone else benefits and your dumb enough to think somehow you're going to save anything out of your pocket?
So sell the satellite. Put a wire coat hanger in the TV input. Problem solved.
Then when the CBC goes all Conservative...........
You should work in Customer Service. You just read that there is no more over the air transmission and replied I should use the over the air transmission. You should apply at Telus in their Internet help desk.
Twit!
fifeboy @ Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:54 am
HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
fifeboy fifeboy:
Well, lets see! Ride wants to push his idea that there are no ideas beside Liberal ideas on the CBC. One can point out endless examples of interviews with serious rightwing thinkers being presented, or that the now deceased Barbara Frum being the host of one of the longest lasting public affairs show on CBC radio, and Ride and the other Right Thunkers will just ignore the evidence.
One other point needs to be looked at. The CBC is Canadian and therefore should reflect the opinions of Canadians. The Connies keep yelping about how the Coalition of the Liberals and NDP has brought up the Conservatives in the polls to a whopping 40%. Which means that 60% are more left leaning. 40% can produce a majority government, but it still does not represent the views of the majority of people.
I was wondering when the extreme left would start blaming the CPC for this.
HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
right now we are in a finincial crisis. the CBC is luxury. We don't need it, I certianly don't need the latest rehash of teen angst on from Degrassi high to remind im Canadian.
bread and circuses me boy, bread and circuses.HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
And by the way smart boy 20& of those 'left' Canadians are seperatists.
Well, more like 16%. And here I thought Steve had called it sovereignty!
HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
Discount them and the Green party who have no base for support to get a Commens seat that leaves you with less that twenty percent per left and extreme left.
Discount them and the almost one million who voted Green??? Geeze, I thought we lived in a Democracy. Oh, I see, you want to debate the first past the post system. I think that was done already, sorry. Oh and a side note here: You call Liberals left and NDP extreme left HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:
so my narrow minded friend it's you who are the true miniorty here
True minority---interesting!
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