Canada Kicks Ass
Should Voting be Mandatory

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bootlegga @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:40 pm

PluggyRug PluggyRug:
How about if you vote you get $10.00 and free sandwiches.

The line up would be round the block.

If the Liberal party gets in you have to give back the $10.00 it was just a lie.
If the Conservative party gets in you get another $0.75 paid interest.

If the NDP gets in they introduce a voting tax and get $15.00 back.


It's more like if the Cons get in, only the wealthiest 10% get 75 cents...everyone else gets told to get a better job.

   



Proculation @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:49 pm

Knoss Knoss:
I think the right to abstain is as importaint to democracy as the right to vote. This means the right to not show up a a polling station.

I was wondering if putting abstain as an option on the ballot would increse voter turnout. Voters who show up to vote abstain would not impact an election but it would be know they refused to make a decision and weren't being to lazy to vote.


In countries where there is a mandatory voting policy, people can get their name crossed off the electoral list. But they have to show up to the polling place.
So you still have the choice to not vote.

I'm for mandatory voting.

   



Banff @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:23 pm

VicVega VicVega:
Thanks for the support and cudos Banff.


hey , your welcome . What you said only makes sense . So what if its the truth . The truth always bugs people . PDT_Armataz_01_34

   



grainfedprairieboy @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:07 pm

Ifyou first try to address the reason for voter apathy excuses vary from the issues are too complex to the person didn't like any of the candidates; with our apologetic political observer intelligensia fingering negative campaigns and first past the post balloting as the truer culprit.

The vanishing voter plagues both Canada and the US whose liberal social ideology of 'what's in it for me?' (cultured over the reign of the Baby Boomer) does not exactly lend itself to selfless political participation.

The primary reason people do not vote is that they do not perceive it as being in their self-interest. All parties try to play to this, ie Librano campaign promises to students, in hopes of striking a chord with each self-interested group. Canada is particularly bad for this due to our penchant for multiculturalism.

Mandatory voting is in place in some 33 countries and has had mixed reviews. In the 1920s Australia hit 58% turnout and enacted legislation for mandatory voting embedding into the cultural more of a voting habit rather than acquiescent participation.

I think the more appropriate solution lies in providing people with the option of "None of the Above" or "No Candidate Acceptable" and making the results binding. Further, like the Iraqis, all participating voters should be identified so they can boast their conscientious objections directly to their fellow citizens.

   



VicVega @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:14 pm

Proculation Proculation:
Banff Banff:
Voting is a privaledge, something that people in the Western world seem to have forgoten, and like all privaledges it does not have to be exercised. PDT_Armataz_01_37


Voting is NOT a privilege, it's your duty as a citizen of a democratic country. :x
As for the youth not voting, I think that's mostly because they dont know anything about politics and so they don't care. Maybe only 20% of my friends actually knows who Stephen Harper is. (Well maybe more now that we are in the election). Even more sadly, a lot of people vote for the Bloc because "they want them to take the power", not knowing why they can't. I think that's exactly why the youngs are separatists: they don,t follow politics but they are invaded by the separatists media so they have developed a blind and revolutionist nationalism.
We should introduce some politics awareness 101 course in high school.


Voting is most definately a priviledge, but youre right it is your duty to exersise that priviledge. The point I was trying to get at is that as much as people think that voting is a right, it is not. Many democratic soceities are only one or two moves away from either a facist or communist government in which the voting priviledge can be taken away. Any government could under extreme circumstances pospone elections due to a state of war, and is the person was popular enough get away with it.

I agree do your democratic duty and vote on Jan 23 2006

   



Jaime_Souviens @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:20 pm

Only if they make thinking mandatory first.

   



PluggyRug @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:24 pm

Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Only if they make thinking mandatory first.


I don't think thinking would improve things, don't you think.

   



VicVega @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:26 pm

bootlegga bootlegga:
PluggyRug PluggyRug:
How about if you vote you get $10.00 and free sandwiches.

The line up would be round the block.

If the Liberal party gets in you have to give back the $10.00 it was just a lie.
If the Conservative party gets in you get another $0.75 paid interest.

If the NDP gets in they introduce a voting tax and get $15.00 back.


It's more like if the Cons get in, only the wealthiest 10% get 75 cents...everyone else gets told to get a better job.


Hey while were at it why don't we have the mps personally come and shovel the walks of all the people who voted?

Rewarding people for doing their democratic duty is like giveing a child a treat for not doing anything wrong, instead of doing something right. The government you helped to choose should be, and is, reward enough.

   



Jaime_Souviens @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:26 pm

PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Jaime_Souviens Jaime_Souviens:
Only if they make thinking mandatory first.


I don't think thinking would improve things, don't you think.


Cogito ergo I say we give it a shot.

   



Knoss @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:26 pm

$1:
Voting is NOT a privilege, it's your duty as a citizen of a democratic country.
As for the youth not voting, I think that's mostly because they dont know anything about politics and so they don't care. Maybe only 20% of my friends actually knows who Stephen Harper is. (Well maybe more now that we are in the election). Even more sadly, a lot of people vote for the Bloc because "they want them to take the power", not knowing why they can't. I think that's exactly why the youngs are separatists: they don,t follow politics but they are invaded by the separatists media so they have developed a blind and revolutionist nationalism.
We should introduce some politics awareness 101 course in high school.


I think voting is a right as is abstaining.

My intrest is what your saying about Quebec sepratists. Could federalists be do more to show pride in Quebec?

   



Mika @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:43 pm

To make votyin g manditory would be a mistake, reason being that more then half the people in Canada are not only complete morons, but they are also quite uninformed and hence they would just go in vote for the random name and go out, we want a government that is brought into the house because it proved itself the best not a government thats brought into the house because it has a cool name.
We already have too many uninformed people voting now, if anything I find a sort of limit should be set on who can vote, a sort of test to show that you have some sort of understanding of what the parties are offering and so on.

   



VicVega @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:57 pm

Mika Mika:
To make votyin g manditory would be a mistake, reason being that more then half the people in Canada are not only complete morons, but they are also quite uninformed and hence they would just go in vote for the random name and go out, we want a government that is brought into the house because it proved itself the best not a government thats brought into the house because it has a cool name.
We already have too many uninformed people voting now, if anything I find a sort of limit should be set on who can vote, a sort of test to show that you have some sort of understanding of what the parties are offering and so on.


What we need is a government that deserves to be there because they propose progressive reforms and change. We do not need a government in because they no longer deserve to be there. The worst thing that can happen in any election is that we vote agianst someone instead voting for someone.

   



grainfedprairieboy @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:07 pm

VicVega VicVega:
What we need is a government that deserves to be there


Canadians have always elected the governments they deserve!

   



VicVega @ Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:11 pm

No question we get what we deserve when voter turn out is as low as it is, but do those we elect deserve to be there?

   



tyranistal @ Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:54 pm

Delwin Delwin:
If voting became mandatory, then those who really do not care about politics would just be adding to the randomness of the whole event, not to say that most voters are making a well informed decision as it is but, I would not want my government to be decided by wheel of fortune.Even if you forced someone to vote, you could not force him to give a hoot.


This is why voting should be mandatory, and should someone not vote, it should be a criminal action. By making it Criminal, everyone would be more inclined to have an opinion, and perhaps you are right, and the first few elections would be more chaotic than needs to be, but after that, I'm sure people would begin to care. Another way to ensure that people don't waste their voice in government is to have people pay five dollars at the voting station when they cast their ballot.

   



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