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What is all this crap about Happy Holidays? I say Merry Christmas and have never been chided or corrected for it.

   

Arctic...Take a look at any of the major chain stores...Idiots the lot of them. Bowing down to sell sh*t!

As my kids say, we have forgotten the True Reason for the Season!

   

I think you're way over the top. First of all, all the brouhaha about reasonable accomodation has been blown out of proportion by the media. The Journal de Montréal sensationlised a few incidents that happened. The whole Sugar Shack incident was group of Muslim people making arrangements for their large group. The owner agreed to their requests (as any good business person would do) and that was that.

The voting while veiled incident was completely fabricated by the media. No Muslim person has actually requested to vote while veiled. Apparently, you don't even vote while veiled in the Middle-East (of course, some would say that women can't even vote in some countries in the Middle-East, but that is a completely different issue).

So don't be so quick to jump on the bandwagon. The intolerant people showing up at this commission are not speaking for all. They are speaking for very very small minority.

   

Really? Who's stopping you? I hear it all the time and I've never seen people harassed for saying it.

All this is about the persecution complex some people seem to exhibit over Christmas.

And it HAPPENS EVERY YEAR!

Like Streaker said, if you think that Christmas trees will disappear altogether because of a some kooks (who aren't speratists) in Quebec ran their fool mouths at some public meeting, then all is lost.

   

''Merry Christmas'' hasn`t been banned, and my own experience (anecdotal though it may be) is that it is still heard far more often than ''Happy Holidays'' or ''Season`s Greetings''.

No reason to get all panicked about a couple of schmucks flapping their jaws at this travelling gong show, IMO.

   

heh... I guess my last post was totally redundant.

   

Not true. Schmuks can never be derided enough.

   

Streak,

Brenda's got a point though.

It's not so much that the Christmas tree will actually be banned, but the fact that outsiders want to change our values simply because they don't agree. Look at France and the problem they now have with Muslim immigration (only an example).

Also, things such as this usually start out small then escalate to something else. Then, there might be an implication of sort to bring changes. So forth and so forth.

The commission, in a way, is a good thing. Although, there are times when there are some idiots that speak out. But it is simply the fact that we must hang on to our values and traditions and cannot let people change them. We don't have to be so politically correct all the time

   

There's being politically correct (once known as being tactful and polite) and then there is using common sense. More and more it seems that those who are the most politically correct have the least common sense.

   

Well, I hope Canada is not going to be as PC as Holland is.

We (they ) celebrate Sinterklaas, who has "Zwarte Pieten" who help him throwing presents through chimneys on December 5th. Zwarte Pieten (Black Pete ) are black men. And helpers. Obviously slaves Last year, the Zwarte Pieten had all colours of the rainbow, and were not black anymore. Why? Because the black community didn't like the "black slave" idea, which has nothing to do with anything. Bye bye Sinterklaas tradition. Sinterklaas is 374 years old (at least my grandparents celebrated it as kids...)

We had "Negerzoen" for years, a sort of candy that is a bit like Puffs. Neger=Negro=Black man. You understand, due to PC, they are called "Zoen"(=kiss) now

In Holland they also sell "Jodenkoeken" (Jewish cookies). The Jews have absolutely no problem with them. They will stay "Jodenkoeken". And that is how it should be.

Why are names and traditions so offensive all of a sudden? I don't understand

   

yuck, boiled evergreen

   

Well there was the name that Brazil Nuts went by for years. I have to say it needed to be changed.

   

Are those like Cheesy Poofs

I Love Cheesy Poofs - Cartman

   

I'm not going to ask how you know how toes taste. Must be some Scandinavian thing

   

ahhhhh nail clippers weren't needed

   

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