Immigrants want to ban Christmas tree
Brenda @ Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:32 pm
lily lily:
You don't see a difference between Black man cookies and Jewish cookies?
We used to have little candies that everyone called nigger babies - now we call them licorice kids. Is that bad? I don't think so - PC has done some good things in amongst the ridiculous.
No, Black man's KISS
This is an automatic translation of the original Dutch page, so please don't get offended
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... %26hl%3Den
Brenda @ Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:46 pm
lily lily:
Offended? I'm chioking with laughter at the translation!
It looks a liitle rude and a whole lot delicious.
What is the "actual" translation though... is it literally "Black man's kiss" or is it more along the lines of the "N" word? That would make a big difference to me.
Neger is the same as Negro, which is the same as black man. Literally it is Black man's kiss.
Nikker is the same as Nigger, which is considered a racist namecalling word, just as it is in English.
Imo the name Negerzoen was meant as a term of endearment...
Brenda @ Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:50 pm
$1:
As if you through a neger are gekust, Buys in all onnozelheid have devised.
I love that part of Babblefish screw-up
It should say: As if you were kissed by a black man, Buys (the name of the founder

) was naievely thinking. (Or something

)
Brenda @ Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:22 pm
lily lily:
Brenda Brenda:
lily lily:
Offended? I'm chioking with laughter at the translation!
It looks a liitle rude and a whole lot delicious.
What is the "actual" translation though... is it literally "Black man's kiss" or is it more along the lines of the "N" word? That would make a big difference to me.
Neger is the same as Negro, which is the same as black man. Literally it is Black man's kiss.
Nikker is the same as Nigger, which is considered a racist namecalling word, just as it is in English.
Imo the name Negerzoen was meant as a term of endearment...
In that case, it shouldn't be an issue.
But then... if people are offended, and it's no big deal to change something, why not do it?
Within reason, of course.
What is a good reason to do it? Because in Suriname, some people of the "Foundation Honour and Reparations to Victims of Slavery " or something think it is supposed to be an insult, which it isn't?
They are the ones who wanted it changed. They are not even a Dutch Colony anymore!
Why change?
PJB PJB:
Streaker...The politically correct has already made saying Merry Christmas a bad thing. We now have to say Happy Holidays...It is starting and I doubt if anyone really knows how far it will go.
The Canada I love is being taken over!!!!!
Might have a point there. Not so far fetched after all
Brenda Brenda:
We had "Negerzoen" for years, a sort of candy that is a bit like Puffs. Neger=Negro=Black man. You understand, due to PC, they are called "Zoen"(=kiss) now

[youtube width=325 height=265]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dXBC6R_rxk[/youtube]
Merry Christmas!
I put my Christmas tree up November 18. (Early? Fuck you - I work in retail)
But. I get where these guys are coming from. I had to go to Youth Court downtown with my son last year and as we waited in the lobby I couldn't help but notice the 'artwork'. A family; heads bowed, hands clasped in prayer. I tried to look away, but it bugged the shit out of me.
As if my day wasn't bad enough, I have to look at this?
So much for separation of Church and State.
Well I believe for the most part in seperation between church and state. I wish people a merry christmas, and I tend not to do business with the happy holidays people, where posible.
As long as other religions are allowed access to streets and parks etc, for celebrations, I see nothing wrong with Christmas symbols. I have a number of friends who are Indo Canadians, and other faiths and they themselves put up Christmas trees, so who has a problem with the this tradition.
Most people don't know either that Christ is the second most important person of faith.
The people who want to ruin celebrations of all kinds are the so called do gooders and they should stay to being cndo nazis. They are the same people who want to ban smoking in bars, and cars, and make all kinds of laws to regulate our lives. If we are going to deport someone deport people who want to regulate society in their own image and likeness.
We used to have jam that had"Golliwogs"on the jar, which was a old fashioned representation of a Black Person. Strangely it was not the Black people that wanted them banned but the White PC crowd.
Bodah @ Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:38 am
Crabbypants Crabbypants:
I put my Christmas tree up November 18. (Early? Fuck you - I work in retail)
But. I get where these guys are coming from. I had to go to Youth Court downtown with my son last year and as we waited in the lobby I couldn't help but notice the 'artwork'. A family; heads bowed, hands clasped in prayer. I tried to look away, but it bugged the shit out of me.
As if my day wasn't bad enough, I have to look at this?
So much for separation of Church and State.
^
See these are the type of people the write city hall, telling them their paintings of people in prayer
are highly offenisve to them. A memo goes out telling property management no more "religous art work"
Next year she see's a christmas tree with an angel on the top of it, writes city hall again, about the Angel. Not only does the city remove the angel, they remove the tree as well because its just a matter of time before some complains about it.
You crabbypants, are the type of atheist I am not, religous symbols or art work dont bother me in the slightest. Why should it bother you ?
The thing overlooked about "political correctness" is that it IS political.
It is not a wish to prevent anyone being offended but a means to impose THEIR narrow concept of civilization.....which all to often is merely a concerted attack on western, democratic, christian principles.
Wullu @ Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:46 pm
Brenda Brenda:
Ban Christmas Trees???

That is THE reason I came to this country! For the GREAT Christmas Trees!

Then you went to the wrong end of the country!
romanP @ Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:54 pm
How about this: we all show some respect for each other and celebrate our own religion in our own privacy, and if we want to invite others to celebrate with us, then we can do that too.
Then we don't have to have big stupid paranoid fights about who is ruining Christmas or whatever the "you're not celebrating my culture so I'm going to bitch about it till everyone wants to shoot themself in the face" complaint of the week is. Because, frankly, capitalism and Christmas don't actually have anything in common, and not one single person whose family arrived on this continent after 1492 really has any right to be saying whose culture this continent belongs to.
If you want to celebrate whatever you think Christmas is, go ahead and buy a tree and put it in your house and decorate it. If you want to celebrate Hannakuh, buy a minora and light your eight candles. If you want to fast for Eid el Fitr, then do so. If you celebrate Kwanza, do whatever it is you do to celebrate Kwanza.
Just stop bitching that other people are ruining your holiday because some store wouldn't recognise it, because that's not their job. Their job is to sell you stuff while giving you the impression that they care about your dumb customs, but they really don't. They just see an opportunity to make you empty your wallet, and you probably willingly do so.
If you want to celebrate your culture, YOU celebrate YOUR culture. It's pretty fucking simple. "To each his own" is not a phrase I find all that confusing, and I don't see why anyone else should be confused by it either.
romanP romanP:
How about this: we all show some respect for each other and celebrate our own religion in our own privacy, and if we want to invite others to celebrate with us, then we can do that too.
Then we don't have to have big stupid paranoid fights about who is ruining Christmas or whatever the "you're not celebrating my culture so I'm going to bitch about it till everyone wants to shoot themself in the face" complaint of the week is. Because, frankly, capitalism and Christmas don't actually have anything in common, and not one single person whose family arrived on this continent after 1492 really has any right to be saying whose culture this continent belongs to.
If you want to celebrate whatever you think Christmas is, go ahead and buy a tree and put it in your house and decorate it. If you want to celebrate Hannakuh, buy a minora and light your eight candles. If you want to fast for Eid el Fitr, then do so. If you celebrate Kwanza, do whatever it is you do to celebrate Kwanza.
Just stop bitching that other people are ruining your holiday because some store wouldn't recognise it, because that's not their job. Their job is to sell you stuff while giving you the impression that they care about your dumb customs, but they really don't. They just see an opportunity to make you empty your wallet, and you probably willingly do so.
If you want to celebrate your culture, YOU celebrate YOUR culture. It's pretty fucking simple. "To each his own" is not a phrase I find all that confusing, and I don't see why anyone else should be confused by it either.
Nobody fasts for Eid el Fitr. They fast during Ramadan. Eid is the feast after the fast. Get your festivals right.
Merry Christmas.
SigPig @ Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:20 am
i think the fact that they said that they support the celbration of religous holidays but want to ban christmas trees says it all. not to mention that these people do not speak for the vast majority of the sikh faith.
now if we could just get the press too ignore these yahoos instead of furthering their messed up ideas through publicity we could all go on celebrating christmas with trees and all and let them hop on the first plane boat or walk for all care, all the way back to india