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Your a fool.

I hate you say that, but it you think the bomb was justified your a fool. Amybe you need to take an ethics course or somthing.

   

How could the war have been ended better, with less loss of life? What is a better way to do it, since I'm a fool in thinking that millions would have died if the US attacked the mainland.

   

If you're going to do name calling, you could at least do it like, "You're a fool."

   

I gave two sources, Johnny...a highly erspected new agency and highly respected human rights organisation. There are more out there. Give it a Google.



I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that the US causes problems, not that they cause all problems.



If you follow the politics, it is overwhelmingly the US that sets policy for the IMF and World Bank. They also dominate UN drug policies.



It ain't slander if it's true. Russia, France, England and other countries all engage in this sort of activity to an extent, but the US is by far the country most involved in such things.



Nothing obvious about about, especially since you are wrong. It isn't the loan that is wrong, or even wishing that loan to be repaid. It is the political and economic controls that go along with the loans that are the problem.



Whenever a black market is encouraged, organised crime shows up. I'm sure you understand that.

I agree that the world should be governed by a single entity that treats everybody the same, Johnny. That single entity should be the UN, minus the security council, and all Nations should have to adhere to international laws or be tried and punished in international court. It can't all be one country though. Just as countries have provinces or states, and provinces are divided up into municipalities etc., there will always be smaller divisions.

   

the us didn't enter ww2 in europe just to be good guys. They had to because germany was probably going to take mainland europe, then russia falls then uk falls and at that point the us would have been fucked.
Also, if canada had a population of 300 million, we would probably do a lot of what the states are doing. Canada does what best in it's own selfinterest, it just doesn't do it on such a scale.
when it comes to peace keeping, most people know thatwe are now more relying on our laurels. I'm not not putting down our soldiers whom i have the utmost respect for, we should put our money where our mouth is and help our peacekeepers, our soldiers and put more into foreign aid.
While the us actions may not all be honourable, most americans have a mortagage, worry about their kids education, enjoy spending times with their family... While we have differant nationalities, let's not forget we are first people.

   

Something I've pointed out a few times is that there is a difference between the American people and the American government, Jerry.

Kofi Annan was in Ottawa pushing for Canada to do more peace-keeping. I'm all for that. I just hope Paul Martin has the brains to listen.

   

hi, i read these posts with interest cause i'm also wondering if the us would've dropped the nukes on germany if it hadn't been finished already.
so i think if any country deserved the nukes, it would have been germany - for sure! i'm a german and i'm always pissed off when i hear folks around here blaming the us or britain for bombing our cities! i'm very thankful for those guys who risked their lives to do this hard job! especially in the beginning of the massive bombing of germany in the early 40's. many guys lost their lives in this time in a horrible fight above the clouds.
AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT WHO BEGAN TO BOMB CITIES AND CIVILIANS - it was germany (see coventry and london - dresden is a shit compared to that). i think it's wrong to blame the us for dropping the nukes on japan. they should've dropped 'em on germany. or both. it was a necessary action in this situation. they even didn't know much about the power the bombs would have - and no one thought about the horrible things that happened to the population of hiroshima and nagasaki after that inferno. they just didn't know enough about it. and this is proven by the handling of the nuke-tests with american soldiers in the states. today everybody knows that it isn't enough to keep your head down and pray. but that is TODAY.
i think it was justified to end the war this way. many soldiers maybe could've been rescued if the us had dropped one or two on berlin or munich. the japanese and german population were so fanatic that nothing else would've worked. japan always reminds the us (and the rest of the world) for the nukes but no one talks about the mess the japanese started.
even today the most japanese think that it was a heroic war for japan. this is really sick! so i fully support johnny...

ghostmaker

   

So inncoect german civilains deserved to die too? The USA targeted CIVILAINs with those nuks, thats low. And kinda sick

   

An attack on the Japanese home islands with conventional forces would have resulted in greater civilian casualties, not fewer.

   

300 000 Civilans were killed. Targeting civilains on purpose should be a war crime, the USA should have been changed with war crimes. Im sorry but there is no argument to be made that can justify purposly killing 300 000 inocnet people.

   

so tell me another way the us should've taken to end the war...
this is a kind of situation that stands above all laws.
let me tell you this:
imagine you are a guy who is responsible for a railway switch.
there's a loose wagon coming down the hill and you have to
decide: if you choose rail one the wagon will run into 12 workers.
if you choose rail two the wagon will run into another train full
of people. so what would you do?
so better end the war with a sudden blow instead taking it to the next round. it would have been a massacre for months to invade the japanese mainland. and the us troops already encountered civilians with hand grenades and suicide attacks on the smaller islands. so just imagine what would happened if the troops started another d-day on japan!
war is hell and the bombing on hiroshima and nagasaki was no heroic action. but at this time is was the right decision in my oppinion.
at a time where rules of war no longer counted. at a time where the allies already made it into germany under heavy casualties and liberated concentration camps. i respect every other oppinion but i think it was the right decision.

ghostmaker

   

Killing 300,000 to save 1,000,000. There's your argument.

   

Look up such battles as Tarawa, Guadlcanal, Iwo Jima, Okinawa. Look at how the Japanese where fighting to virtually the last man and how many civilians would kill themselves and there kids rather then let themselves be put under American/Allied rule. The Japanese on the home islands where preparing to fight and die to the last man, woman and child in the name of their Emporer. This coupled with the fact that there is no way to fight a war and avoid civilian casualties, especially when the "civilians" decide to become combatants. Estimates on casualties for an invasion of Japan are usually around 1,000,000.

   

Sorry but I don't agree, not one bit. No one knows how long Japan would have stayed in the war. With the war in Europe over they new there time was coming to an end. no one knows how many people would have died if they didnÂ’t bomb them. So its just speculation.

   

Michener Letter About the Necessity of the A-bomb

   

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