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hwacker @ Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:56 pm

Ali786 Ali786:
hwacker hwacker:
Ali786 Ali786:
hwacker hwacker:
same morals ?

like hating jews and christains?

treating woman like cattle ?

yeah nice cult there buddy.


I dun remember saying, I hate Christians and Jews? In fact, I don't acknowledge anyones religion while talking to them since it doesn't matter what they believe in, its their personal choice, how they choose to communicate with God.

Treating our woman like cattle? we treat our woman better then we treat most of the world, now if you have some misconceptions then thats your fault for not educating yourself in certain matters.


Listen you brainwashed fool I've been to the middle east enough times to know your BS is just that.

A wife must neither receive male strangers nor accept gifts from them without her husband's approval.

A husband has the legal right to restrict his wife's freedom of movement. He may prevent her from leaving her home without his permission unless there is a necessity or legitimate reason for her to do otherwise. However, it is his religious obligation to be compassionate and not to unreasonably restrict her freedom of movement. If there arises a conflict between this right of the husband and the rights of the wife's parents to visit her and be visited by her, the husband's right prevails in the wider interest of the family. Yet the Shari'ah recommends that he be considerate enough to waive his rights to avoid shame within the family.

A refractory wife has no legal right to object to her husband exercising his disciplinary authority. Islamic law, in common with most other systems of law, recognizes the husband's right to discipline his wife for disobedience.

The wife may not legally object to the husband's right to take another wife or to exercise his right of divorce. The marital contract establishes her implicit consent to these rights. However, if she wishes to restrict his freedom in this regard or to have similar rights, she is legally allowed to do so. She may stipulate in the marital agreement that she too will have the right to divorce or that she will keep the marriage bond only so long as she remains the only wife. Should he take a second wife, she will have the right to seek a divorce in accordance with the marriage agreement.


Now STFU already.


1. The right and duty to obtain education.

2. The right to have their own independent property.

3. The right to work to earn money if they need it or want it.

4. Equality of reward for equal deeds.

5. The right to express their opinion and be heard.

6. The right to provisions from the husband for all her needs and more.

7. The right to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.

8. The right to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply can't stand him. (pls note that God deeply frowns upon divorce as a solution unless there is hardly any other alternative but it does not mean that men have more right to divorce their wives than women do.)

9. The right to keep all her own money (she is not responsible to maintain any relations).

10. The right to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

11. custody of their children after divorce.

12. to refuse any marriage that does not please them

and more...

You should really do your research before opening your mouth since you have no clue what you are talking about.


This is all I need to post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

now STFU.

   



hwacker @ Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:06 pm

lily lily:
From your wiki link:

$1:
Honor killing is forbidden in Islam. There is no specific mention of the practice in the Qur'an or Hadiths except in so far as the custom of killing baby girls to protect the family honor, which is specifically condemned in the Qur'an, was a form of honor killing. An honor killing refers specifically to extra-legal punishment by the family against the woman, and it is often argued that this is technically forbidden by the Sharia (Islamic law). Some modern Islamic religious authorities and Muslims disagree with extra-legal punishments such as honor killing and prohibit it, since they consider the practice to be a cultural issue.


key word cultural, cult like islam is.

   



hwacker @ Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:14 pm

Ali786 Ali786:
lily lily:
What hwacker is doing is commonly referred to as a dodge. ;)


Well, what I have heard from this fellow so far isn't exactly debating material, it seems that he wants to pick a fight and be insulted. I guess, people have weird fetishes, what can you do.


I don't debate with brainwashed cult members.

   



Tricks @ Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:29 pm

Tricks Tricks:
Ali786 Ali786:
I dun remember saying, I hate Christians and Jews? In fact, I don't acknowledge anyones religion while talking to them since it doesn't matter what they believe in, its their personal choice, how they choose to communicate with God.
What about those who don`t believe in god?
Bump.

   



Blue_Nose @ Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:34 pm

Yeah, what about us godless heathens? :lol:

   



Blue_Nose @ Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:37 pm

hwacker hwacker:
I don't debate with brainwashed cult members.
ha! The day I read anything that comes close to "debate" material from your account is the day I become a Muslim.

   



hwacker @ Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:49 pm

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
hwacker hwacker:
I don't debate with brainwashed cult members.
ha! The day I read anything that comes close to "debate" material from your account is the day I become a Muslim.


Debate this.

$1:
Dear friends, there is no time to waste. Let us put an end to this lie. Let us not fool ourselves. Islam is not a religion of peace, of tolerance, of equality or of unity of humankind. Let us read the Qur'an. Let us face the truth even if it is painful. As long as we keep this lie alive, as long as we hide our head in the sands of Arabia we are feeding terrorism. As long as you and I keep calling Qur'an the unchangeable book of God, we cannot blame those who follow the teachings therein.


One truthfull muslim. :roll:

source

   



hwacker @ Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:22 pm

As long as you and I keep calling Qur'an the unchangeable book of God, we cannot blame those who follow the teachings therein.

   



BartSimpson @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:36 am

Ali,
Here are my questions and they are to you alone. I am not asking you to represent the entirety of islam.

1) Do you abide by the call of the koran to impose islam on the entire world?

2) Would it bother you to have to sit with and eat with a Jew? Any Jew.

3) Would it bother you to sit with and eat with someone who was eating pork?

4) If a member of your immediate family chose to become a Christian or even a Jew would you abide by and respect their decision and still care about them?

5) Would you be comfortable working closely with a homosexual?

6) If your local newspaper published images that were meant to repesent mohammed what would your reaction be?

7) Does Israel have a right to exist?


And feel free to ask me questions in return. :wink:

   



Tricks @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:47 pm

Ali786 Ali786:
Tricks Tricks:
Tricks Tricks:
Ali786 Ali786:
I dun remember saying, I hate Christians and Jews? In fact, I don't acknowledge anyones religion while talking to them since it doesn't matter what they believe in, its their personal choice, how they choose to communicate with God.
What about those who don`t believe in god?
Bump.


Well, then they don't believe in God then I can only mention the idea, its their obligation whether they believe or not. Everyone is well aware of most religions out there so if that doesn't convince them then I don't think anyone should push upon them something that they already know. If God wants them to see the so called "light" then they shall do so without us having to interfere and rub religion in their faces.
What does Islam say about people who don't believe in god?

   



GerryHurt @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:54 pm

Tricks Tricks:
Ali786 Ali786:
Tricks Tricks:
Tricks Tricks:
Ali786 Ali786:
I dun remember saying, I hate Christians and Jews? In fact, I don't acknowledge anyones religion while talking to them since it doesn't matter what they believe in, its their personal choice, how they choose to communicate with God.
What about those who don`t believe in god?
Bump.


Well, then they don't believe in God then I can only mention the idea, its their obligation whether they believe or not. Everyone is well aware of most religions out there so if that doesn't convince them then I don't think anyone should push upon them something that they already know. If God wants them to see the so called "light" then they shall do so without us having to interfere and rub religion in their faces.
What does Islam say about people who don't believe in god?



ALi is a Muslim, he just answered your question.

   



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