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A week from now no one will even remember where big valley is. Most couldnt find it even with a map.

   

Why certainly and the Bible plays no part in it. The very short quoteless version is:

Biology - Mother Nature, evolution or whatever obviously never intended it.

Disease - According to the Oxford Journal, a gay Canadian male will live 20 years less then a straight one. Married homosexuals in Denmark will die 24 years earlier.

Lifespan - Homosexuality will reduce your lifespan more than three times as much as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day yet we advocate children choose the wrong kinda fag.

Cost - Homosexuals and their parade of fecal transmitted illnesses are a strain on the healthcare system. Additionally, all benefits paid out to so called spouses are an added expense.

Social - I believe it weakens the social fabric of a society and the current gay culture is anti-family.

Pick anyone of the five or all and I'll happily debate you but please leave religion out of it.



I have so much to learn that a hundred lifetimes would be insufficient. I often hope that should there be an afterlife heaven must be total knowledge.

The difference between us is I know that I don't know.



You even insult like a limp-wristed poofter.

   

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Not that this line of discussion has anything to do with the topic, but I very highly doubt that there's a heterosexual equivalent to "bug chasing", which I was disgusted to learn exists throughout the "gay community". This isn't a characteristic of a healthy lifestyle.

   

I wasn't familiar with this part of the lifestyle but did a little research and WTF?

   

And I belive arrogant, self rightous commentary like yours harms the evolution of society. Before you start calling me a flaming dyke or something equally annoying. I'm straight. Have you been in a coma for the last 20 years.

   

The evolution of society is to promote a lifestyle that prematurely ends peoples lives and disrupts the family?

The only self righteousness embodied here is exemplified by you and your intolerance of objective opinion.

Instead of going all NDP on me why not prove that either gay men or women are not negatively impacted by the lifestyle choice you advocate?

   

I'm not going all NDP I wasn't aware this was a political challange. I think you may find most gay men and woman do not see there lifestyle as a choice. I myself think the evolution of society should be based on just that evolving. Learning tolerance,respect. Calling someone a limp wristed poofter is objective opinion. It sounds more to me you like to dish it, but you can't suck it up. I certainly wasn't aware by the tone of your post you were "objectively" trying to save gay persons from themselves. I am sure of this though. They aren't interested in your brand of objectively saving them.

   

Care to explain the appendix then? Does nothing, occasionally flares up and kills people unless it's surgically removed, so why's it there? Because most of the time, it's harmless. Just because a trait isn't demonstrably helpful doesn't mean it can't be natural. Even if it's harmful to specific individuals, as long as it doesn't harm the species as a whole, it can exist and be natural. This argument is completely groundless.





These are predicated on 100% of patients being honest about their sexuality. It stands to reason that those who are more reckless are alos more likely to be open about their sexuality as part of their flamboyance.



So are people wo smoke. So are people who drink.

The conservative government recently cancelled a program which subsidised clean, safe tattoos to prisoners to combat the spread of hep c.

This argument is as well grounded as your first - not well grounded at all.



So does divorce. So is divorce.

Care to try again?

   

Of course it is political.



Neither do pedophiles, rapists and or paraphiliacs. I just think we should be trying to help people out rather then into a lifestyle that will kill them.



So you support NAMBLA then?



But he is.



How many posts have you insulted or aggressively challenged me in in how many different threads? 4 for 2? I have yet to respond in kind so the more apt accusation should be "you won't dish it out but you can suck it up"



Whoopie for the Newbie.

My challenge regarding health consequences stands or is this the best retort to that you've got?

   

My statements stand, my opinion of you stands.

   

Wow, maybe you're right. I mean, everything we've learned about contact with fecal matter, hygene and the well documented problems of penetrating orifices that were never designed for such can easily be dismissed on the premise of the usefulness of the appendix.



So the absolute known fact that homosexuals will die between 20-30 years earlier should be dismissed outright based on your assumption that the older you become the less likely you are to anonymously admit you are homosexual or be treated for diseases associated with homosexuality?

You are a mockery of your own earlier truth comments.



People who smoke will have their lifespan reduced 1-10 years. People who are homosexual will have their lifespan reduced 20-30 years.

Why are you not outraged that this lifestyle is normalised and results in premature deaths all in the name of political expediency?



And I oppose the no fault divorce Trudeau gave us which has been a disaster for families. Why do you think that two wrong social policies cancel each other out or somehow legitimise the other?



If you think you proved that homosexuality is safe with that weak effort of a post it's no wonder the latest gay culture revolves around "bug chasing."

   

In other words all your research confirms I'm right.

   

No. I just think your an ass

   

I certainly wouldn't dispute that.

   

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