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And to call on someone repeatedly to fight you is low too. You insult people endlessly because of their beliefs. Why is religion different from all else? Why does it get a pass?
Absolutely, and it's good that they found something that got through it.
I think they are delusional yes.
She is delusional, but that doesn't make what she did any different. Why these people need a god to do these things doesn't make any sense.
No idea, and frankly I don't care. He keeps religion out of politics.

   

I feel I should clarify that last post. If someone puts religion above all else, and puts the utmost faith in it. Believe it does not wrong, then they are nuts. But if someone goes to church, follows the bible because of the morals it offers, then I have no issue with that. I don't understand why they need a book and an imaginary being to have morals, but whatever. I have an issue with people who think that everything in the book(s) are true, and that god is perfect. That is what I have a problem with.

So avro, those people you mentioned. If they believe everything in the bible and that God is perfect and can do no wrong, then yes, they are nuts.

   

Tricks can supercede, what was accomplished by mother theresa. Not.

   

If these people did not need GOD to do these things then you have done the same as them. I know you will say that so how come you or other Christains don't, even though you have found GOD. The simple answer to that would be that we "choose" to spend our time informing people of our religion when we should be helping people.

God, gave us the ability to choose and we choose wrong but thats in my opnion. Islam requires us to give to charity regulary, pray and help people that are need but my choices have led me not to pray, neither help anybody. But, I still knwo that I should be and that only makes it more of a possibility that I will obey GOD and I will follow what GOD has taught us sometime in my life time.

If you want proof of GOD then I can't give you that neither can anyone else. But, I can tell you that these "books" can't be some mans imagination. The way they speak to you and the things these books tell you were so advance that everything applies today. If you want to challenge me and find some Quranic quotes that do not apply in todays society then go for it.

   

There are a lot of reasons why people believe in God.

As someone who professes a belief I can say that the majority of people that I have observed who attend church actually do not evidence an abiding belief in God. For them church is more of a social function and religion provides them a foundation upon which to form their lives. They don't really have a belief, but they see that people who have a belief have lives they wish to emulate.

The next group of people are a much smaller group and they are the ones who believe because they have faith. They truly and devoutly believe because they trust what they have been told about God from the testimony of other people and that testimony can be oral or written.

The very smallest group of people are those people who have experienced *something* that absolutely defies any scientific or conventional explanation and, because their experience is *impossible* by conventional standards they attribute the experience to God.

The Israelites, several thousands of them, witnessed the events detailed in the Book of Exodus such as the pillar of smoke and fire, manna from the sky, the parting of the Red Sea, and still, one can conclude from reading Exodus that even when seeing such things not all of them attributed the miracles to God. Moses' experiences with God are his personal accounts and I am certain that his accounts had quite an impact on his contemporaries.

In modern times people still have experiences that defy science: miraculous healings of terminal diseases, people who are involved in accidents & etc. and inexplicably escaping unharmed, and then people who have supernatural experiences such as unexplained knowledge of events far removed from them and etc. I also imagine that a fair number of these people elect not to share their experiences for fear of ridicule from people whom they know will not accept or tolerate descriptions of such experiences.

Such things evidence *something* beyond our comprehension and for some people this is all they need to believe in God.

   

Do you have any idea of what Mother Teresa actually did to the people she 'helped'?

She's no saint, rest assured.

   

Whatever she was doing it was more than anyone else was doing - which is nothing.

   

"You are suffering like Christ on the cross. So Jesus must be kissing you."

- Mother Teresa, revelling in the insufferable pain of a cancer patient instead of providing them with medical aid.

   

Why believe in God? Perhaps a perfection for which to strive is a fundamental calling of the human being.

   

She was old school on cancer for terminal patients and towards the end of her life her clinics started adopting the hospice standards that had only evolved in the US & Canada in the mid to late 1980's.

Prior to the 1980's many terminal cancer patients in our countries needlessly suffered because the medical mindset of the day was not to provide powerful narcotics to these patients because of cultural aversions to powerful narcotics.

If you're truly offended by the standard of care these people receive today then do feel free to go there and help.

Criticising a dead woman who did the best she could with the knowledge and tools of her time is useless.

   

Nirvana is a different religious question.

   

That whole "saving" thing is such bullshit.


And where's my answer, Sheepy McDodgington?

   

Cogito ergo sum (I think therefore I am). No other species has the ability towards abstract thought such as math or philosophy. Nor does any other species posses empathy, artistic expression (music, images etc.), or even the ability to cry tears or overcome instinct.

   

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