Why do people believe in God?
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Arctic_Menace @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:49 pm
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Who is right? I am.
This is why many people hate religion, because it says it's infallable.
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There are many dodges in religion but to laugh at them would be folly. Oft times, they cannot answer because they know they are wrong yet stutter and sputter at the indignities of being wrong. They cling to one hope but that hope fails.
Or they quote the scriptures, taking it as divine truth.
Arctic_Menace @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:55 pm
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Looking at the 'organization' of the world and saying that it couldn't be an accident is just dumb - it's like draining a pot of beans using a colander, and then proclaiming, 'It can't possibly be a coincidence that the water was drained out and the beans remained!'
I have GOT to remember that line!!!
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If you give these things a RATIONAL consideration, it makes sense. Of course we live on a planet that is suited for life - if Earth happened to be unsuitable for life, we wouldn't be living here. Sorry, but to assume that the universe has been tailored to suit our exact needs is absolutely ridiculous - is it not more rational to say that life has adapted to suit the environment?
This fits perfectly with the concepts of Natural Selection and Evolution, which remove all the 'chance' and 'accident' from the equation. No intelligent evolutionist as ever said, "the world is an accident," yet theists still can't seem to understand these basic concepts. They want to believe that evolution says that eyeballs just randomly popped into existance for no reason at all, or that humans evolved from monkeys.
Saying 'Gee golly, the world is so confusing, I'm just going to assume it's something magical' is what people millenia ago used to do when they thought the sun was a flaming chariot and the seaons were determined from pomegranates. The fact that you can plop any old explanation (usually some form of 'God did it') down when you encounter something strange isn't more rational than accepting that we don't know everything, and then go about trying to figure it out.
All that aside, that God gets a kick out of hearing our apologies, or seeing us eat and drink little bits of his son on Sunday, is asinine. If I were to place a bet on what God 'wanted' us to do, it sure as hell wouldn't be praying, preaching from pages in an old book, or asking him to save our dying relatives. I say, 'God' gave us a brain to think logically, and religious people are throwing that away for petty reasons.
This fits perfectly with the concepts of Natural Selection and Evolution, which remove all the 'chance' and 'accident' from the equation. No intelligent evolutionist as ever said, "the world is an accident," yet theists still can't seem to understand these basic concepts. They want to believe that evolution says that eyeballs just randomly popped into existance for no reason at all, or that humans evolved from monkeys.
Saying 'Gee golly, the world is so confusing, I'm just going to assume it's something magical' is what people millenia ago used to do when they thought the sun was a flaming chariot and the seaons were determined from pomegranates. The fact that you can plop any old explanation (usually some form of 'God did it') down when you encounter something strange isn't more rational than accepting that we don't know everything, and then go about trying to figure it out.
All that aside, that God gets a kick out of hearing our apologies, or seeing us eat and drink little bits of his son on Sunday, is asinine. If I were to place a bet on what God 'wanted' us to do, it sure as hell wouldn't be praying, preaching from pages in an old book, or asking him to save our dying relatives. I say, 'God' gave us a brain to think logically, and religious people are throwing that away for petty reasons.
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I think if you look at the whole idea of creationism, it's flawed from the get go. If you trace time back to Adam and Eve, the earth is only around 6000 years old? I think not. The pyramids in Egypt are older than that. If we all sprang from Adam and Eve, they had only two children, both males and one killed the other, where did all subsequent generations come from? Again, if we all came from Adam and Eve, how do you explain the "evolution" of humans into their different races across the world?
Dude, come on. That's just harsh. I'm just toying this one like a cat does to a mouse and you gotta really scare it and make it think really hard.
Now watch, it's going to go and quote the Bible, and proclaim that it is the truth because it comes from the Bible.
Arctic_Menace @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:00 pm
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Do you have any idea of what Mother Teresa actually did to the people she 'helped'?
She's no saint, rest assured.
She's no saint, rest assured.
:huh:
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"You are suffering like Christ on the cross. So Jesus must be kissing you."
- Mother Teresa, revelling in the insufferable pain of a cancer patient instead of providing them with medical aid.
- Mother Teresa, revelling in the insufferable pain of a cancer patient instead of providing them with medical aid.
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Why believe in God? Perhaps a perfection for which to strive is a fundamental calling of the human being.
That's my belief. I was put on this planet in many incarnations to learn all possible things and to better understand mankind, until one day, I finally achieve total enlightenment.
danikyvor @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:03 pm
I don't know.
I sure don't. (Believe in God that is.)
Blue_Nose @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:34 pm
Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:
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Do you have any idea of what Mother Teresa actually did to the people she 'helped'?
She's no saint, rest assured.
She's no saint, rest assured.
:huh:
Where did these millions, or billions, of dollars donated to her cause go? Everybody just assumes she was an amazing person who helped many people, but that's because she's propped up by the Catholic Church to appear that way.
It's sad that so many people in the West turn to her for guidance, but the reality is that she was a cold, sadistic woman.
Arctic_Menace @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:58 pm
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Mother Teresa's hospitals were rundown and filthy, despite the millions of dollars she received in donations. She was interested in preaching to sick people before they died, and gave them a place to suffer, but did little to actually try to heal them or ease their suffering. However, if she ever got sick, she'd be on the next flight to the US for real medical treatment.
Where did these millions, or billions, of dollars donated to her cause go? Everybody just assumes she was an amazing person who helped many people, but that's because she's propped up by the Catholic Church to appear that way.
It's sad that so many people in the West turn to her for guidance, but the reality is that she was a cold, sadistic woman.
Where did these millions, or billions, of dollars donated to her cause go? Everybody just assumes she was an amazing person who helped many people, but that's because she's propped up by the Catholic Church to appear that way.
It's sad that so many people in the West turn to her for guidance, but the reality is that she was a cold, sadistic woman.
God Damn!
Abbas @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:16 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Without reading through the last 6-7 pages:
Looking at the 'organization' of the world and saying that it couldn't be an accident is just dumb - it's like draining a pot of beans using a colander, and then proclaiming, 'It can't possibly be a coincidence that the water was drained out and the beans remained!'
If you give these things a RATIONAL consideration, it makes sense. Of course we live on a planet that is suited for life - if Earth happened to be unsuitable for life, we wouldn't be living here. Sorry, but to assume that the universe has been tailored to suit our exact needs is absolutely ridiculous - is it not more rational to say that life has adapted to suit the environment?
This fits perfectly with the concepts of Natural Selection and Evolution, which remove all the 'chance' and 'accident' from the equation. No intelligent evolutionist as ever said, "the world is an accident," yet theists still can't seem to understand these basic concepts. They want to believe that evolution says that eyeballs just randomly popped into existance for no reason at all, or that humans evolved from monkeys.
Saying 'Gee golly, the world is so confusing, I'm just going to assume it's something magical' is what people millenia ago used to do when they thought the sun was a flaming chariot and the seaons were determined from pomegranates. The fact that you can plop any old explanation (usually some form of 'God did it') down when you encounter something strange isn't more rational than accepting that we don't know everything, and then go about trying to figure it out.
All that aside, that God gets a kick out of hearing our apologies, or seeing us eat and drink little bits of his son on Sunday, is asinine. If I were to place a bet on what God 'wanted' us to do, it sure as hell wouldn't be praying, preaching from pages in an old book, or asking him to save our dying relatives. I say, 'God' gave us a brain to think logically, and religious people are throwing that away for petty reasons.
Looking at the 'organization' of the world and saying that it couldn't be an accident is just dumb - it's like draining a pot of beans using a colander, and then proclaiming, 'It can't possibly be a coincidence that the water was drained out and the beans remained!'
If you give these things a RATIONAL consideration, it makes sense. Of course we live on a planet that is suited for life - if Earth happened to be unsuitable for life, we wouldn't be living here. Sorry, but to assume that the universe has been tailored to suit our exact needs is absolutely ridiculous - is it not more rational to say that life has adapted to suit the environment?
This fits perfectly with the concepts of Natural Selection and Evolution, which remove all the 'chance' and 'accident' from the equation. No intelligent evolutionist as ever said, "the world is an accident," yet theists still can't seem to understand these basic concepts. They want to believe that evolution says that eyeballs just randomly popped into existance for no reason at all, or that humans evolved from monkeys.
Saying 'Gee golly, the world is so confusing, I'm just going to assume it's something magical' is what people millenia ago used to do when they thought the sun was a flaming chariot and the seaons were determined from pomegranates. The fact that you can plop any old explanation (usually some form of 'God did it') down when you encounter something strange isn't more rational than accepting that we don't know everything, and then go about trying to figure it out.
All that aside, that God gets a kick out of hearing our apologies, or seeing us eat and drink little bits of his son on Sunday, is asinine. If I were to place a bet on what God 'wanted' us to do, it sure as hell wouldn't be praying, preaching from pages in an old book, or asking him to save our dying relatives. I say, 'God' gave us a brain to think logically, and religious people are throwing that away for petty reasons.
I totally disagree with you but thats a good response, I rather have you guys battle it out with Bible, because there is no way, one can debate on existence of GOD, because the one that believes in GOD has no proof. Its similar to asking many questions such as "Is there anyone else in the Universe". It can be answered but not without another million years of advance knowledge in all fields of sciences. The truth will come after our deaths, only then one can be certain, if GOD exists or not. So, blue, I suggest stabbing yourself a couple of times in the neck and perhaps lighting yourself on fire right after and I can gurantee you that you will find out whether God exists or not. Oh, Bible guy, i suggest the same for you, except I want you to through yourself off a clif, after you are lit.
Abbas @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:19 pm
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Mother Teresa's hospitals were rundown and filthy, despite the millions of dollars she received in donations. She was interested in preaching to sick people before they died, and gave them a place to suffer, but did little to actually try to heal them or ease their suffering. However, if she ever got sick, she'd be on the next flight to the US for real medical treatment.
Where did these millions, or billions, of dollars donated to her cause go? Everybody just assumes she was an amazing person who helped many people, but that's because she's propped up by the Catholic Church to appear that way.
It's sad that so many people in the West turn to her for guidance, but the reality is that she was a cold, sadistic woman.
Where did these millions, or billions, of dollars donated to her cause go? Everybody just assumes she was an amazing person who helped many people, but that's because she's propped up by the Catholic Church to appear that way.
It's sad that so many people in the West turn to her for guidance, but the reality is that she was a cold, sadistic woman.
Damnnnnnn, talk about Blue being the coldest mofo out there. (thats a compliment, not an insult).
Blue_Nose @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:42 pm
Abbas Abbas:
I totally disagree with you but thats a good response, I rather have you guys battle it out with Bible, because there is no way, one can debate on existence of GOD, because the one that believes in GOD has no proof. Its similar to asking many questions such as "Is there anyone else in the Universe". It can be answered but not without another million years of advance knowledge in all fields of sciences. The truth will come after our deaths, only then one can be certain, if GOD exists or not. So, blue, I suggest stabbing yourself a couple of times in the neck and perhaps lighting yourself on fire right after and I can gurantee you that you will find out whether God exists or not. Oh, Bible guy, i suggest the same for you, except I want you to through yourself off a clif, after you are lit.
There's no way for us to 'debate' the existance of a giant space-hamster that eats stars and planets, either, but there's also no reason to assume it exists.
As for your little suggestion, I suggest you go fuck yourself.
grainfedprairieboy @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:50 pm
Avro:
As much as it pains me to say this, your last 6 post or so were spot on.
Good job.
(yuck)
Arctic_Menace @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:25 pm
I would laugh if God turned out to be Frank Zappa.
USCAdad @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:35 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Abbas Abbas:
I totally disagree with you but thats a good response, I rather have you guys battle it out with Bible, because there is no way, one can debate on existence of GOD, because the one that believes in GOD has no proof. Its similar to asking many questions such as "Is there anyone else in the Universe". It can be answered but not without another million years of advance knowledge in all fields of sciences. The truth will come after our deaths, only then one can be certain, if GOD exists or not. So, blue, I suggest stabbing yourself a couple of times in the neck and perhaps lighting yourself on fire right after and I can gurantee you that you will find out whether God exists or not. Oh, Bible guy, i suggest the same for you, except I want you to through yourself off a clif, after you are lit.
There's no way for us to 'debate' the existance of a giant space-hamster that eats stars and planets, either, but there's also no reason to assume it exists.As for your little suggestion, I suggest you go fuck yourself.
Ramen
Blue_Nose @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:46 pm
Speaking of noodly appendage, it appears to be a little chilly to be laying about with no clothes on.
icekarma2752 @ Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:15 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Avro Avro:
There you have it, Tricks in defending his attack on Christians thinks Mother Teresa is nuts.
WOW!
Do you have any idea of what Mother Teresa actually did to the people she 'helped'?WOW!
She's no saint, rest assured.
why do you consider mother teresa unworthy for sainthood?? this is a woman who only existed on only 2 and 1/2 hrs of sleep a night whos total agenda was to provide comfort to the dying..yes it is true that her sect didnt believe in giving pain-killers reason being that since christ suffered so should we and i cant say i totally agree with that. she dealt with the inpoverished dying people as she saw fit rather than deal with the under-lying reasons why poverty existed..her rational on that was that in order to deal with these issues she'd have to become active in politics..something she'd never get involved with because she felt she felt politics was a tool of hatred...she truely saw christ in everyone
Biblical_Christian @ Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:42 am
Reincarnation? arctic? Just hope you don't back as a horsefly or a mosquito. Raid is pretty powerful, but i just use a flyswatter it does the job, nicely.
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