UK: The Brexit Discussion Topic
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N_Fiddledog @ Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:30 am
Sunnyways Sunnyways:
She has to recognize that the extreme Brexiteers...
What is that anyway? An "extreme brexiteer?"
From over here on the continent I got the impression the majority of Brits voted for a full Brexit. Are they all extremists now to some portion of the political spectrum?
Sunnyways @ Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:29 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
What is that anyway? An "extreme brexiteer?"
From over here on the continent I got the impression the majority of Brits voted for a full Brexit. Are they all extremists now to some portion of the political spectrum?
I’m referring to the small minority in parliament who want a no deal crash-out. Ordinary supporters of Brexit are increasingly referred to as plain old Brexiters without the extra ‘e’, dactylic rather than anapestic in pronunciation like oranges as opposed to musketeers. Apart from the immediate problems this would create, what sensible person believes that the UK would have the leverage to negotiate better trade deals with other countries than a massive bloc like the EU?
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The fantasy at the hollow core of the Brexit proposition is that the UK can expect to secure bilateral free-trade agreements across the world more favourable than EU terms.
But as a third country outside the EU regulations, Britain won't find a fast-track to better or even equitable trade conditions. Asia or the US will seek to leverage the UK's weakness as it slips the EU leash as a rule taker.
A total separation of goods from services is impossible, given today's globalised, complex, just-in-time manufacturing and sub-supply chains. UK service industries will have to locate branches in the EU, which will impose extra layers of costs in heavily regulated areas. Financial services regulations like MiFiD II and consumer data protection compliance through GDPR will remain unavoidable, maintaining compliance obligations on British firms.
Tragically for British business and jobs, it will only be after any withdrawal agreement and political declaration that the ultimate cold, harsh reality of an escape from the Eurosphere bites.
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comm ... 51012.html
....As former bookmaker, based on the Westminster MP arithmetic, I'd compile an odds market on the key net results:
The deadline date to be extended up to July 1 is 4/7, for it to remain as is 11/8.
On the Brexit outcome - any form of agreed UK/EU deal is 4/7, a second referendum is 5/1, a crash-out no deal is 7/1.
I'm still adamant that the starkest no deal is the least likely endgame, simply because, out of 632 MPs, there are around 500 MPs (both on opposition and government benches) who'll vote it down.
But as a third country outside the EU regulations, Britain won't find a fast-track to better or even equitable trade conditions. Asia or the US will seek to leverage the UK's weakness as it slips the EU leash as a rule taker.
A total separation of goods from services is impossible, given today's globalised, complex, just-in-time manufacturing and sub-supply chains. UK service industries will have to locate branches in the EU, which will impose extra layers of costs in heavily regulated areas. Financial services regulations like MiFiD II and consumer data protection compliance through GDPR will remain unavoidable, maintaining compliance obligations on British firms.
Tragically for British business and jobs, it will only be after any withdrawal agreement and political declaration that the ultimate cold, harsh reality of an escape from the Eurosphere bites.
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comm ... 51012.html
....As former bookmaker, based on the Westminster MP arithmetic, I'd compile an odds market on the key net results:
The deadline date to be extended up to July 1 is 4/7, for it to remain as is 11/8.
On the Brexit outcome - any form of agreed UK/EU deal is 4/7, a second referendum is 5/1, a crash-out no deal is 7/1.
I'm still adamant that the starkest no deal is the least likely endgame, simply because, out of 632 MPs, there are around 500 MPs (both on opposition and government benches) who'll vote it down.
I see the odds of a crash-out by April 1 (what a date) quoted on an actual betting site are 3-1
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/br ... t-specials
N_Fiddledog @ Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:26 pm
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Brexiteer: A person who is in favour of the United Kingdom withdrawing from the European Union.
‘many Brexiteers laud Norway for its separateness from the EU’
‘many Brexiteers laud Norway for its separateness from the EU’
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/brexiteer
You know...like the majority of the UK who voted for Brexit.
~ Britain never, never, never
Shall be slaves...~
Thanos @ Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:33 pm
Sing that to all the hundreds of thousands of Brits, most of whom voted against Brexit, who are going to lose their jobs because of this carefully-manipulated foolishness.
N_Fiddledog @ Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:44 pm
Thanos Thanos:
Sing that to all the hundreds of thousands of Brits, most of whom voted against Brexit, who are going to lose their jobs because of this carefully-manipulated foolishness.
Globalists can write their own damn songs.
Thanos @ Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:00 pm
"Anyone who isn't one of us is the enemy" - Cersei Lannister
Sunnyways @ Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:33 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
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Brexiteer: A person who is in favour of the United Kingdom withdrawing from the European Union.
‘many Brexiteers laud Norway for its separateness from the EU’
‘many Brexiteers laud Norway for its separateness from the EU’
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/brexiteer
You know...like the majority of the UK who voted for Brexit.
~ Britain never, never, never
Shall be slaves...~
It's early days for these words but Brexiteer is often used to describe a type of Brexiter, esp. a more extreme one at the posh end of the social spectrum:
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Since Theresa May moved into Downing Street and ripped up her predecessor’s team sheet, the term ‘Brexiteer’ has largely taken on a more specific meaning. It’s used most frequently these days to refer to the three ministers charged with shaping Britain’s course out of the EU — Boris Johnson, David Davis and Liam Fox.
For now they may enjoy the allusions to Alexandre Dumas’ all-action trio but the Three Brexiteers will be all too aware of the sobriquet’s satirical potential. Whether the term evokes more d’Artagnan than Don Quixote will depend on what happens next.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/bre ... of-a-word/
For now they may enjoy the allusions to Alexandre Dumas’ all-action trio but the Three Brexiteers will be all too aware of the sobriquet’s satirical potential. Whether the term evokes more d’Artagnan than Don Quixote will depend on what happens next.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/bre ... of-a-word/
Sunnyways @ Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:22 am
Britain couldn’t manage a WTO-based exit in time now even if it wanted on. There’s no time to get the legislation and regulations done. If MPs don’t agree to May’s deal or something softer they’ll have to postpone Brexit. Turns out her only ‘strategy’ was to run down the clock. Pretty sad, really.
BartSimpson @ Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:38 am
Sunnyways Sunnyways:
Britain couldn’t manage a WTO-based exit in time now even if it wanted on. There’s no time to get the legislation and regulations done. If MPs don’t agree to May’s deal or something softer they’ll have to postpone Brexit. Turns out her only ‘strategy’ was to run down the clock. Pretty sad, really.
Theresa May is committing treason against her country. Period.
Thanos @ Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:22 am
Not really. She's just not listening to a bare majority of simpleton voters who made a bad decision based on lies, manipulated data, and financing from an enemy state in Russia. Brexit is simply the dumbest and most damaging thing Britain's ever done to itself and they're going to reap one fuck of a horrible whirlwind from it.
martin14 @ Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:58 pm
It is a small matter, does not deserve its' own thread.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47071234
Beef scare: Polish bad meat spreads to 11 EU states
So a Polish abattoir has been playing fast and lose with the rules.
Why would anyone care ?
Because, Slovakia tried to ban all beef imports from Poland until the mess was cleaned up.
Turns out, they can't, because of EU rules.
The Slovak government will have to apply to the EU Commission first, and then wait
for them to decide if the situation warrants a ban. Nothing to do in Slovakia.
Meanwhile, the tainted meat has hit restaurants and school cafeterias.
Such is life in the EUSSR.
BartSimpson @ Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:51 pm
Thanos Thanos:
Not really. She's just not listening to a bare majority of simpleton voters who made a bad decision based on lies, manipulated data, and financing from an enemy state in Russia. Brexit is simply the dumbest and most damaging thing Britain's ever done to itself and they're going to reap one fuck of a horrible whirlwind from it.
So you only like elections when they go your way?
Sunnyways @ Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:49 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Thanos Thanos:
Not really. She's just not listening to a bare majority of simpleton voters who made a bad decision based on lies, manipulated data, and financing from an enemy state in Russia. Brexit is simply the dumbest and most damaging thing Britain's ever done to itself and they're going to reap one fuck of a horrible whirlwind from it.
So you only like elections when they go your way?
This was a referendum, a relative novelty in the British tradition that Mrs. Thatcher was not fond of at all.
BartSimpson @ Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:48 pm
However you wish to phrase it, the people have spoken.
martin14 @ Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:23 pm
Headlines...
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Pressure mounts for EU President Donald Tusk to apologise to Brexiteers after the Eurocrat said there was 'a special place in hell' for the British voters who wanted rid of him
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Juncker and Varadkar show off ‘thank you card from Irish family’ that declares: ‘For the first time ever, Ireland is stronger than Britain thanks to the EU’
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'They would divide Hell': Another Brussels boss takes aim at Brexiteers as Guy Verhofstadt follows Donald Tusk in scathing insults at vote Leavers
Oh my the butthurt from the Euroweenies is just so real.
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