Would Canada make a Logical Target

Wrong and I still stand by my statement,you see derby....I saw those rotting bales but if if it makes you feel better.

I live and work all over the province and know darn near every farmer from pincher to paradise valley,including Ivan Daines and the "King" brothers(rip).Believe what you were told on the news and I'll believe what I saw.

And i'm not sure what you want the pat on the back for but it seems that's what you want.

Any "evidence" you show me will likely be a link to a media story.I asked the head honcho's at 5 hutterite colonys about the big hay help out and they all laughed at how the other farmers will bend over backwards when they smell some govt. money in the wind in the form of assistance.

I will now fart in your general direction.

The only thing that makes Canada a target, is being geographically next to the USA. Plus stories like this.

http://jusinkase.blogspot.com/2005/07/b ... se-of.html

JK

What folks need to understand is that these terrorists do no see us as Canada, the US or the UK or any country. In their mind we are all THEM and are therefore all completely valid targets. So long as we are a democratic country that opposes their views on how the world ought to be run we are and will remain a valid target. The only thing that amazes me is that we have not been hit yet, because sure as hell we would follow the cowards route that Spain took and not the screw you attitude that the Brits have so recently shown us all.

I love this type of question.

If Liberals say, Canada isn't a target and we get attacked, then they become scapegoats. But if they say it is, then it allows the right to lobby for all sorts of restrictive measures like no-fly lists, random arrests and racial profiling.

Either way, the Cons get their way. Nothing like a good old Catch-22!

Hmm, okay just my thoughts on things.

First off, for the record the people believed to be involved in the 9/11 attacks? They never passed through Canada, never took shelter here or got training here. I'll try to get you a link on that but I forget where I saw it. I know our border has more holes than a seive but we don't seem to ahve been the source of any terrorists. yet. Unless you count that bit of action thirty odd years ago and those were extreme sepratists so I doubt they would do anything to the USA.

Is Canada a target? Probably. Are we high on the list? Probably not but don't bet on it.

There are a few things that make me say that. First off, yes we are part of the west, though sometimes I really do wonder about that. We have increasing ties to Asia and are the only 'western' country allowed in the pacifc rim summits IIRC. We did get caught up in the hype and went into Afgahnistan and helped kick out a religous regime that helped Al Quada(sp?) which would definatly not put us in any Islamic extremeists good books. We've got a long standing reputation as the USA's little brother/friendly neighbour though there has been some cooling of that lately I don't think most of the world realizes it.

Now a few reasons why we probably aren't at the top of the list. Canada isn't a Christian nation. Hasn't been since about 1994. Christianity is still a large religion but it no longer the religion of the majority of the country. Many religions, including Islam have fairly large followings here. Mind you, given the amount of bombings in Iraq and now the bombings in London I'm not sure they care as much about not blowing up Islamics as I'd like to think.

Canada also has been largly trying to stay out of this mess. Like it or not, so far those that have been bombed are those that are/were taking part to some extent in Bush's 'Coalition of the Willing'. I don't think that makes us exempt, but I do believe it gives them some pause as to the validity of attacking Canada. While most of the grunts are fanatic nuts, I'm not so sure about Osama. I think he maybe more calculating than we give him credit for. Launching an attack on a country that is so far neutral will bring doubts and questions into the minds of many countries that have so far been sitting things out.

Last bit which is a bit more wistfull than the others. Canada does have a certain popularity with some countries. If we're attacked I doubt we're going to have people howling for blood but it would probably change some countries stances on the issue. We wouldn't bring in the world for the other side but attacking us would swing sympathy back towards the War on Terror.

While I don't think we're painting a target on ourselves and taunting them to try something, I don't think we can just sit back and be smug about the situation either. It's a possibility at all times, but I don't see it as being a major one unless something radicly changes.

Canada is IMO a target becuase we are a secular western democracy. The AlQuaeda types hate us for that reason and that is enough reason to kill us. Denmark sent troops to Iraq and they have yet to be hit though so being on a list does not mean you are at the top.
I think Iraq is a tactical mistake of giant proportions which has done much to inhibit the war on these people. Afghanistan made sence to me as it was a case of a country just being a terrorist logistics centre openly. Canda did participate in the effort in Afghanistan and continues to. This makes sence expecially the PRT concpet and the training of the Afghan army.
What does not make sence is once again the extreme right raise it's ugly head in this thread as well using the same divisive attack rhetoric they do down south with the same result. truth is those terrorist bastards hate us all and if we are going to fight them we have to be unified not biting each others ass at evry opportunity

Cheers
fred

Canada is no longer allied with Britain, Australia, New Zealand, "America, "Israel, etcetera...but with France, Syria, Iran, North Korea, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, etcetera. This is by the choice of our federal government (Briberal/NDeeP/Bloc) who has arranged this for their own corporate/personal financial gain. Canada will most likely not be attacked so long as Canada's federal government continues assisting/supporting those foreign fighters/jihadists recruited from around the world to kill innocent Iraqi civilians, and those fighting to protect those same innocent Iraqi civilians from our newfound Islamic fundamentalist/terrorist allies, such as our *former* allies of Anglo/non-communist backgrounds, such as Britain, Australia, New Zealand, America and so on who, in days since past, would have given their lives for us (and have), but that we now have turned our backs on, and in fact encourage and support those who kill them. "
Could you be a little more specific beyond wild accusations? how do we support them? Was it the troops we deployed in Afghansistan who hunted the taliban in Anaconda or maybe it's the exhange personnel we have serving with American forces in Iraq? Perhaps its the PRT we are deployiing as part of ISAF in Afghanistan? Which measure are you refferring to? maybe it's the increased responsibilities we took on in NORAD so the americans can deploy to Iraq? Jesus those terrs must think we are their best friends.
"Not any more. Our former friends and allies are no longer deluding themselves to the effect that Canada is a friend/ally. We should remember that as we attempt to extend our imperialistic "La Francophonie" reach into Denmark's domain. "Cooled" is an apparent understatement. This coming from American family/friends coupled with my own personal observations. We should be prepared to be on our own in the future, and take responsibility for our own protection. We have sold out our old allies and friends for economic gain one too many times it appears. I don't delude myself into pretending it wouldn't take a LOT of hard work (and time) to reverse things! "
So we by attempting to assert out claim of sovereignity over hans island are being french imperialists? If you think the americans no longer work work with us take a look at all the joint exercises we hold with. Try dnd.ca
It contains many records of prsent and ongoing military relatiosnship with the States. Your friends and family are aware of things at the Pentagon and state no one else is?
"Very true statement and astute observation as well. Canada has *dramatically* changed since the fifties. That is precisely why so many Canadians outside of Ontario (in addition to Quebec) want to *seperate*. It's no longer the country we once loved. And we seem powerless to prevent ourselves from becoming nothing more than the Communist/Socialist "FrancoPuppet" of North America, controlled by the huge international French-Canadian corporations such as Power Corporation of Canada as but one example. "
The majority of candians like canada just the way it is. This is with exception of some rightwing fundamentalists in the west. Not exactly a huge number of people. Their brand of poltics has been rejected by the majority of the nation at the polls inspite of tremendous liberal scandals. This whiny mentality ios what holds the conservatives of steven harper in check.TLike reform they are seen as the part of the small amount of whiners in the west who want to make us another state. Your emoticons are cute as are you cold war anti fench stuff. Hard to to read the latest stuff through a white hood.
"Canada has not been "neutral", and has not "stayed out" of anything in the middle east. Canada has been very much involved...on behalf of the French/Syrian/Iranian terrorist trifecta. Canada even offers citizenship/birthing rights to it's Syrian hardliner government allies to send their children to Quebec for the purpose of childbirth/Canadian citizenship with an eye to the future. Take a look at the member nations of La Francophonie which is co-chaired by France and French-Canada's ruling elite. "
So you would level even worse charges at the US for supportting Saddam insane and training supportting Osama Bin laden at one time. your Rhtetoric is reall over the top here. If you lived in the states you could substitute coloured folks for french perhaps?
Your terminology is rife with rabid prejudice and you ahve no supporrting facts. you seem to misrpresent or are unaware of reality.
Cheers
fred22

I think it is safe to say you are paranoid. Canada allied with Iran? Cuba? Hamas? HA! I will admit we dont do enough however we are hardly allies of these people.