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novachick @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:44 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
that's what christ taught. ask for forgiveness from god and it will be granted. catholics and other christian churches have sort of ........altered what christ preached.
Ya mean my mother lied trying to keep me a virgin
I just fail as the good little catholic girl, any time I have to go in a church I'm scared shitless it's gonna fall down or some lightning bolt is going to light up my ass
ShepherdsDog @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:46 pm
OK here's a really loaded question. what is Islam's take on homosexuality?
novachick @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:47 pm
Ali786 Ali786:
Tricks Tricks:
Lets see. In order of most executions in 2004.
China
Iran
Vietnam
For the top 3. So they are up there, just not the most.
China
Iran
Vietnam
For the top 3. So they are up there, just not the most.
So your point was wrong, out of the top 3 countries with Death Plenty, 2 are non Muslim countries.
Here are some more realistic stats from Amnesty International.
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4. Death sentences and executions
During 2006, at least 1,591 people were executed in 25 countries and at least 3,861 people were sentenced to death in 55 countries. These were only minimum figures; the true figures were certainly higher.
In 2006, 91 per cent of all known executions took place in China, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Sudan and the USA.
Based on public reports available, Amnesty International estimated that at least 1,010 people were executed in China during the year, although the true figures were believed to be much higher. Credible sources suggest that between 7,500 to 8,000 people were executed in 2006. The official statistics remain a state secret, making monitoring and analysis problematic.
Iran executed 177 people, Pakistan 82 and Iraq and Sudan each at least 65. There were 53 executions in 12 states in the USA.
The worldwide figure for those currently condemned to death and awaiting execution is difficult to assess. The estimated number at the end of 2006 was between 19,185 and 24,646 based on information from human rights groups, media reports and the limited official figures available.
During 2006, at least 1,591 people were executed in 25 countries and at least 3,861 people were sentenced to death in 55 countries. These were only minimum figures; the true figures were certainly higher.
In 2006, 91 per cent of all known executions took place in China, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Sudan and the USA.
Based on public reports available, Amnesty International estimated that at least 1,010 people were executed in China during the year, although the true figures were believed to be much higher. Credible sources suggest that between 7,500 to 8,000 people were executed in 2006. The official statistics remain a state secret, making monitoring and analysis problematic.
Iran executed 177 people, Pakistan 82 and Iraq and Sudan each at least 65. There were 53 executions in 12 states in the USA.
The worldwide figure for those currently condemned to death and awaiting execution is difficult to assess. The estimated number at the end of 2006 was between 19,185 and 24,646 based on information from human rights groups, media reports and the limited official figures available.
1010 in China, 177 in Iran, 82 in Pakistan, 65 in Iraq and Sudan and 53 in the USA so US is in the top 6 for Death Plenty so I think I have proved that there isn't much difference between different countries regarding the death plenty.
ok Amnesty International....didn't they put out a plea about girly part mutilation still happening today in Muslim countries, i could be wrong here.
ShepherdsDog @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:47 pm
novachick novachick:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
that's what christ taught. ask for forgiveness from god and it will be granted. catholics and other christian churches have sort of ........altered what christ preached.
Ya mean my mother lied trying to keep me a virgin
I just fail as the good little catholic girl, any time I have to go in a church I'm scared shitless it's gonna fall down or some lightning bolt is going to light up my ass guilt seems to be the only jewish carry over into catholicism.
ShepherdsDog @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:49 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
OK here's a really loaded question. what is Islam's take on homosexuality?
bump
Tricks @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:53 pm
Ali786 Ali786:
Tricks Tricks:
Lets see. In order of most executions in 2004.
China
Iran
Vietnam
For the top 3. So they are up there, just not the most.
China
Iran
Vietnam
For the top 3. So they are up there, just not the most.
So your point was wrong, out of the top 3 countries with Death Plenty, 2 are non Muslim countries.
Here are some more realistic stats from Amnesty International.
$1:
4. Death sentences and executions
During 2006, at least 1,591 people were executed in 25 countries and at least 3,861 people were sentenced to death in 55 countries. These were only minimum figures; the true figures were certainly higher.
In 2006, 91 per cent of all known executions took place in China, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Sudan and the USA.
Based on public reports available, Amnesty International estimated that at least 1,010 people were executed in China during the year, although the true figures were believed to be much higher. Credible sources suggest that between 7,500 to 8,000 people were executed in 2006. The official statistics remain a state secret, making monitoring and analysis problematic.
Iran executed 177 people, Pakistan 82 and Iraq and Sudan each at least 65. There were 53 executions in 12 states in the USA.
The worldwide figure for those currently condemned to death and awaiting execution is difficult to assess. The estimated number at the end of 2006 was between 19,185 and 24,646 based on information from human rights groups, media reports and the limited official figures available.
During 2006, at least 1,591 people were executed in 25 countries and at least 3,861 people were sentenced to death in 55 countries. These were only minimum figures; the true figures were certainly higher.
In 2006, 91 per cent of all known executions took place in China, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Sudan and the USA.
Based on public reports available, Amnesty International estimated that at least 1,010 people were executed in China during the year, although the true figures were believed to be much higher. Credible sources suggest that between 7,500 to 8,000 people were executed in 2006. The official statistics remain a state secret, making monitoring and analysis problematic.
Iran executed 177 people, Pakistan 82 and Iraq and Sudan each at least 65. There were 53 executions in 12 states in the USA.
The worldwide figure for those currently condemned to death and awaiting execution is difficult to assess. The estimated number at the end of 2006 was between 19,185 and 24,646 based on information from human rights groups, media reports and the limited official figures available.
1010 in China, 177 in Iran, 82 in Pakistan, 65 in Iraq and Sudan and 53 in the USA so US is in the top 6 for Death Plenty so I think I have proved that there isn't much difference between different countries regarding the death plenty.
Was too lazy to keep looking.$1:
1010 in China, 177 in Iran, 82 in Pakistan, 65 in Iraq and Sudan and 53 in the USA so US is in the top 6 for Death Plenty so I think I have proved that there isn't much difference between different countries regarding the death plenty.
Um... 4 of the 6 nations are muslim. And china is an anomaly because it's so fucked in the head.
Tricks @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:54 pm
Ali786 Ali786:
Tricks Tricks:
Ali786 Ali786:
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So the Quran is always right? And if you choose to not follow it, bad things are going to happen? Sounds like a threat to me.
Actually, if we choose not to follow some of the lesser sins then God will forgive us, which is made clear in the Quran. Now, if the Quran tells me not to drink but I drink, it is considered a sin but it doesn't hold as much punishment as rape or death. Every religion threatens you, they tell you either you follow the religion or their will be punishment in one way or another, that sounds like a threat coming from God, the God who created us.
So you are allowed to some of these lesser sins but the big kahunas and your in deep shit with the big guy upstairs?Well, you can't really do anything to the "Guy" that the threat is coming from.
Tricks @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:55 pm
Ali786 Ali786:
novachick novachick:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
that's what christ taught. ask for forgiveness from god and it will be granted. catholics and other christian churches have sort of ........altered what christ preached.
Ya mean my mother lied trying to keep me a virgin
I just fail as the good little catholic girl, any time I have to go in a church I'm scared shitless it's gonna fall down or some lightning bolt is going to light up my ass I don't think you should worry much. If God wanted you dead then you would already be and I don't think any religion says that you would be hit by a lightening bolt. I think most religions refer to a Judgment Day and thats when you will be judged for this life.
novachick @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:58 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
novachick novachick:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
that's what christ taught. ask for forgiveness from god and it will be granted. catholics and other christian churches have sort of ........altered what christ preached.
Ya mean my mother lied trying to keep me a virgin
I just fail as the good little catholic girl, any time I have to go in a church I'm scared shitless it's gonna fall down or some lightning bolt is going to light up my ass guilt seems to be the only jewish carry over into catholicism.
Well if they hadn't of done that I might of stayed in that religion, but damn I just have no time for that much guilt. The very last time i went to confession the priest pulled my ass right out of the coffessional sat my ass down in a pew. Went at me like the sky was going to open lightning hail down, like it was my personal fault about the garden of eden, kept me there for an hour doing hail mary's with a nun sitting with me. I got my ass out of there and never went back. God may be about forgiveness but the catholic church sure as hell isn't.
novachick @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:00 pm
Tricks Tricks:
Ali786 Ali786:
novachick novachick:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
that's what christ taught. ask for forgiveness from god and it will be granted. catholics and other christian churches have sort of ........altered what christ preached.
Ya mean my mother lied trying to keep me a virgin
I just fail as the good little catholic girl, any time I have to go in a church I'm scared shitless it's gonna fall down or some lightning bolt is going to light up my ass I don't think you should worry much. If God wanted you dead then you would already be and I don't think any religion says that you would be hit by a lightening bolt. I think most religions refer to a Judgment Day and thats when you will be judged for this life.
I want you dead, fuck god
Oh right shhhhhhhh i'm not supposed to be talking ![[popcorn]](./images/smilies/popcorn.gif "Eating Popcorn")
novachick @ Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:01 pm
Ali786 Ali786:
novachick novachick:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
novachick novachick:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
that's what christ taught. ask for forgiveness from god and it will be granted. catholics and other christian churches have sort of ........altered what christ preached.
Ya mean my mother lied trying to keep me a virgin
I just fail as the good little catholic girl, any time I have to go in a church I'm scared shitless it's gonna fall down or some lightning bolt is going to light up my ass guilt seems to be the only jewish carry over into catholicism.
Well if they hadn't of done that I might of stayed in that religion, but damn I just have no time for that much guilt. The very last time i went to confession the priest pulled my ass right out of the coffessional sat my ass down in a pew. Went at me like the sky was going to open lightning hail down, like it was my personal fault about the garden of eden, kept me there for an hour doing hail mary's with a nun sitting with me. I got my ass out of there and never went back. God may be about forgiveness but the catholic church sure as hell isn't.
A man cannot forgive your sins, only God can, remember that. So, don't blame God for what the priest did, if the priest had done his research then he might have acted different.
I don't thats why i believe in my god just not the one the catholic church claims
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