Women in Islam!
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I'm glad your neighbors are good people. Now ask them if they renounce the parts of the koran we've been discussing and then ask them what defines a 'moderate' muslim.
You see, Brenda, Bart knows them better than you do - he can see into their mind through books, and he knows their true feelings. Interacting with someone daily doesn't cut it anymore - you
need to meet people through
text.
You, on the other hand, presume to know what motivates muslims without reading the koran despite the fact that you've been told (how many times?) by muslims that you need to read the koran and in Arabic to truly understand them.
I agree with the muslims and you taunt me for it. Nice.
Brenda @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:01 pm
Excesses are everywhere Bart. READ what I wrote, and don't jump to conclusions. You are nothing more then a biased ass, who knows better, but refuses to talk to the people on the streets.
The only thing you show here, are pictures of a country where this shit happens, and yes, that is totally fucked up. But I have seen no hangings in my street. Never. Of course I hate these pictures as much as you do. But do I have to blame my neighbours for that? Treat them differently? No, and I never will.
They (on the pictures there) don't know any better now, do they? Maybe it is Gods (or better, Allah's) will for you to go there, and tell them they should do it the way you were brought up.
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
That Bart sits at his computer trying to convince people that our good, honest friends are in fact hateful, conspiring zealots is disgusting.
I guess all those people the RCMP keeps arresting in Canada are all innocent.
Brenda @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:03 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
That Bart sits at his computer trying to convince people that our good, honest friends are in fact hateful, conspiring zealots is disgusting.
I guess all those people the RCMP keeps arresting in Canada are all innocent.
ALL muslims are CRIMINALS?????
Tell me you are not really implying that?
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Brenda Brenda:
I know no one who is killed by "so called moderates".
I do.
Brenda Brenda:
I know the extremist-muslim groups here are watched for by the police, or what ever units they have for that.
I have been discussing this issues with them, who or even what do you think I am? Do you really think I yell something out of the blue? They have been crying in my arms when 9-11 happened, and they turned out to be muslims they cried even harder. When Theo van Gogh was killed here in Amsterdam, they have been crying WHY AGAIN it was an extreme-muslim, and how that would effect them.
It seems they're crying more about how these evets will affect them than they are crying about the tragedy of the events. Your words and not mine.
Brenda Brenda:
They don't like it! Geesh, they are humans, Bart.
When they unequivocly denounce the terrorists and their acts of terror instead of wringing their hands over how they will be treated in the aftermath of such events I'll be far more welcoming to them.
And you say they are human.
I ask then, who are these people?



Are they
human to you?
are you implying that Muslims are NOT human?
Remember, Brenda stated how her friends and neighbours felt about the terrorism, she stated they were human....then you posted the above......looks to me like you are implying that Muslims are NOT human.
Shall we go through the list of atrocities in the last century done by "Christians" in the name of "God"?...Oh no....never mind...IU already know that canned response to that.
hwacker @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:10 pm
Brenda Brenda:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
That Bart sits at his computer trying to convince people that our good, honest friends are in fact hateful, conspiring zealots is disgusting.
I guess all those people the RCMP keeps arresting in Canada are all innocent.
ALL muslims are CRIMINALS?????
Tell me you are not really implying that?

Only when they follow their book verbatim.
hwacker @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:12 pm
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
Shall we go through the list of atrocities in the last century done by "Christians" in the name of "God"?...Oh no....never mind...IU already know that canned response to that.
yes please do, name every person that's still breathing today also.
I'll be waiting.
hwacker hwacker:
Brenda Brenda:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
That Bart sits at his computer trying to convince people that our good, honest friends are in fact hateful, conspiring zealots is disgusting.
I guess all those people the RCMP keeps arresting in Canada are all innocent.
ALL muslims are CRIMINALS?????
Tell me you are not really implying that?

Only when they follow their book verbatim.
and there are relatively few that do that considering there are over 1.2 billion Muslims in the world.
hwacker @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:15 pm
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
hwacker hwacker:
Brenda Brenda:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
That Bart sits at his computer trying to convince people that our good, honest friends are in fact hateful, conspiring zealots is disgusting.
I guess all those people the RCMP keeps arresting in Canada are all innocent.
ALL muslims are CRIMINALS?????
Tell me you are not really implying that?

Only when they follow their book verbatim.
and there are relatively few that do that considering there are over 1.2 billion Muslims in the world.
That's a load of shit.
Please post some pics with you in the middle east. I doubt you've ever been there.
hwacker hwacker:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
Shall we go through the list of atrocities in the last century done by "Christians" in the name of "God"?...Oh no....never mind...IU already know that canned response to that.
yes please do, name every person that's still breathing today also.
I'll be waiting.
Like I said..I already know the standard canned response...be a waste of time
hwacker @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:20 pm
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
hwacker hwacker:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
Shall we go through the list of atrocities in the last century done by "Christians" in the name of "God"?...Oh no....never mind...IU already know that canned response to that.
yes please do, name every person that's still breathing today also.
I'll be waiting.
Like I said..I already know the standard canned response...be a waste of time
Do it. I got all night.
hwacker hwacker:
GerryHurt GerryHurt:
hwacker hwacker:
Brenda Brenda:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
That Bart sits at his computer trying to convince people that our good, honest friends are in fact hateful, conspiring zealots is disgusting.
I guess all those people the RCMP keeps arresting in Canada are all innocent.
ALL muslims are CRIMINALS?????
Tell me you are not really implying that?

Only when they follow their book verbatim.
and there are relatively few that do that considering there are over 1.2 billion Muslims in the world.
That's a load of shit.
Please post some pics with you in the middle east. I doubt you've ever been there.
of course it's a load of shit.......... and Northern Ireland never happned....priests never abused kids........James town is a myth............
Brenda Brenda:
Excesses are everywhere Bart. READ what I wrote, and don't jump to conclusions. You are nothing more then a biased ass, who knows better, but refuses to talk to the people on the streets.
The only thing you show here, are pictures of a country where this shit happens, and yes, that is totally fucked up. But I have seen no hangings in my street. Never. Of course I hate these pictures as much as you do. But do I have to blame my neighbours for that? Treat them differently? No, and I never will.
They (on the pictures there) don't know any better now, do they? Maybe it is Gods (or better, Allah's) will for you to go there, and tell them they should do it the way you were brought up.
I am biased. You're right.
In 1983 sixteen of the very best friends I could have ever had in my entire life died at the hands of the muslims while they were tasked with
protecting muslims.
In 1988 I lost another friend whose head was mailed to his family in the USA. His wife committed suicide a couple years later. She was the one who opened the package.
In 1993 three people I'd trained were killed unloading medical supplies from an APC by the very people they were trying to help.
In 2001 the entire AT&T team of people I'd worked with in my civilian job were killed when their office was hit by a jetliner hijacked by muslims. My cousin, Marcia, would've been killed at a different firm in the same building that day had she not been in London on business.
From 2003 to current I've attended more funerals than I can stand.
This last year I lost people I'd trained and befriended when the team of Iraqi police who were supposedly helping them turned on them and murdered them.
So, yes, I am biased.
Brenda @ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:26 pm
Why can't people just accept, that in this day and age, people migrate? They bring their culture, language, habbits, and wealth to another country. Why am I accepted as an immigrant, and my neighbour, who happens to be muslim, will be seen as a threat? We are born in the same country, speak the same language, pay the same taxes. He goes to the mosque to pray, I rather see every religion banned, because I think too many wars started over religion. (shit I am supposed to be left, I guess I can't say this???)
He will be treated like dirt by people like Bart, while I will be offered a beer. Why? I don't even drink beer!
What is the difference? The difference is quite simple. I don't look like a muslim. I am too pale, although the colour of our eyes are the same...
As long as people adapt, I don't see a problem.
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Brenda Brenda:
Excesses are everywhere Bart. READ what I wrote, and don't jump to conclusions. You are nothing more then a biased ass, who knows better, but refuses to talk to the people on the streets.
The only thing you show here, are pictures of a country where this shit happens, and yes, that is totally fucked up. But I have seen no hangings in my street. Never. Of course I hate these pictures as much as you do. But do I have to blame my neighbours for that? Treat them differently? No, and I never will.
They (on the pictures there) don't know any better now, do they? Maybe it is Gods (or better, Allah's) will for you to go there, and tell them they should do it the way you were brought up.
I am biased. You're right.
In 1983 sixteen of the very best friends I could have ever had in my entire life died at the hands of the muslims while they were tasked with
protecting muslims.
In 1988 I lost another friend whose head was mailed to his family in the USA. His wife committed suicide a couple years later. She was the one who opened the package.
In 1993 three people I'd trained were killed unloading medical supplies from an APC by the very people they were trying to help.
In 2001 the entire AT&T team of people I'd worked with in my civilian job were killed when their office was hit by a jetliner hijacked by muslims. My cousin, Marcia, would've been killed at a different firm in the same building that day had she not been in London on business.
From 2003 to current I've attended more funerals than I can stand.
This last year I lost people I'd trained and befriended when the team of Iraqi police who were supposedly helping them turned on them and murdered them.
So, yes, I am biased.
and what YOU need to do is figure out WHY these things happend......because they didn't happen in a vacuume........ cause and effect........