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This is just....Goofy, is the only word I can think of to describe it.

Would it be wrong for the US to invade Canada. Even thinking such a thing, and "the military option" was brought up in water discussions a few years ago, is morally reprehensible.

It's economically stupid too. It would disrupt the economies of the US and its biggest trading partner. People would be starving in both countries. The US would be even more bankrupt than it already is.

The entire world would back Canada. There are some places that the US cannot touch militarily. Canada, Western Europe, Australia and New Zealand are the obvious ones. The rest of the world simply will not stand for it.

Try again Doomsday. The US would get their asses kicked in more ways than one if they tried to invade Canada.

   

I guess you don't know about our Peace Keepers! Canada is highly active with peace keeping and we have clean up after alot of your messes! You go into to third world, helpess countrys and blow the shit out of them, then we have to sweep up and put the pieces back together. Look at Iraq, you made quite the mess there! Thus we have a lot of troops and Peace keepers over there cleaning up. What makes it worse is that you guys had no reason to go over there in the first place!!!!!! But NO we're the bullies of the world and we'll do what we want. You guys broke so many rules its not even funny.

As far as support goes, we would get a whole lot of support from othere countries. Our relations internationaly are lot better than yours. Once again, look at Iraq. An unjust war and you had very little support and a lot of opposition. What makes you think it would be any different if you tried to invade Canada.

   

Ha! I laugh at this! Most Americans can't even point Canada on a map, let alone invading it!

   

Hmm, can I have some examples of when Canada saved the US's ass?

   

Dude, they're already here. All tose wonderful sleeper cells that the US is scared to death of. In both the US and Canada they could be your neighbor or your kids teacher, you have no idea most of the time till its too late. We wouldn't need to fly them in, we just stop trying to stop them and start supplying them and it would be a much different situation. The US wouldn't have to let them in, with the worlds largest undefended boarder its easy to slip across through the forest. A couple suicide bombers with dirty bombs that GWB likes to talk up would cause havoc in major centers. And yes, Canada has more then enough uranium to do it since 80% of the uranium used by the US comes from Canada.


So having a poorly equiped, if you call nuclear capable poorly equiped, having no oil, and being communist is a reason to hate someone. How wonderful to see the two-faced nature of american humanatarianism.
Yeah, they have prison camps, and death camps. Yeah, they suck, but then Texas basically does the same thing except with lethal injections instead of a bullet. Largest penetentery system in the US from what I understand, they certainly put the most people to death. Don't even bother with the human rights card, the US isn't near clean enough to play it.
If they were so terrified of the US why did they defy the US and develop their nuclear program to be able to produce WMD's. Sounds like they're shaking in their boots. They're borders are defended to keep nutty American marines out. The entire situation with them is an intimate chess game, not the slugfest boxing match that the US is used to from other wars.


Yeah, I do. Thats why I'm happy to be Canadian and not N. Korean or American.


Umm...did you read the entire statement. I did mention Japan as well as why they did it and why they were able to. In todays world they don't have the balls. The repercussions would be far to great where as in Japan there were none, the world was behind the US on it. The presidents of the US have been gutless morons for the past few terms. They don't have what it takes to bite down and lauch the entire country into a nuclear war.


With this I agree, I have no doubt they would. But when was the US last faced with a losing situation on the scale that require nukes. Any country that has nukes would use them if facing total annihilation. But since there hasn't been a direct threat of war to the US mainland in years its not something that would ever happen. Nowadays its just sporatic orginized terrorist attacks that hit and leave nothing to respond to.


We're the ones who have almost always, up till the Iraq invasion backed the US internationally and politically. We've done the sweet talking to foreign governments that didn't want to talk to you and put that shiney finish on your missle packing humvee. When you guys blow something up its Canadians who frequently go in to clean up the mess and stabalize the situation after the US has pulled out in full or in part as in Afghanistan.
I do agree with you statement that neither of us are each others babysitters and are mainly just trading partners. But with amount that we help each other out it certainly seems like we constantly babysit each other.


So total war then. Like Hitler declared on the Jews and allied forces. Like Muslim extremists have declared on all infidels. If you want to sit in that basket with them, be my guest. I've never pictured the US to be genocidal, just a little crazy from time to time.


Honestly, without nukes its a stalemate. The US hasn't got what it takes in resources to occupy Canada. They would literally have to pulverize it to ashes and that would require nukes. Where Canada goes the Commonwealth also goes, so Britain, Australia, and a couple of the other countries that have military forces would be involed. If not directly on the mainland then certainly at US outposts overseas. France could cry to the UN, or eat some cheese of something. They're kinda useless for the most part. Maybe get them to do a Monty Python impression and fling cows at the US embassy.


Yes, but look at how much damage a couple of suicide bombers have caused. They are poorly equipped, have little tactical training in many cases and just have the sole desire to kick the US out of their country and kill as many soldiers as possible. The same thing is happening between Palastine and Isreal. Suicide bombers cause havoc there every week. The difference here is that Canadians and Americans look just like each other, so you wouldn't see a Canadian suicide bomber coming. Pick any random face from a crowd, that could be him. Only about 30% of Canada is of a Christian faith, including myself. The US has far far more Christians in it. The pastor at my church is an ex paratrooper from the Canadian military and has frequently said that while he is a servant of god he would fight to defend his home and alot of other Canadians are the same way regardless of religious beliefs.
The US hasn't been able to successfully occupy Iraq without getting attacked and suffering losses every other day, how would they expect to occupy Canada and live through it. They don't have the military capability for that size of operation. In order to take out Canada, you would have to nuke us. Since you won't nuke us, its a stalemate.


Thats what you asked in the begining wasn't it. Would it be ethically wrong to do so. Maybe you have a different definition, but to me, morals and ethics are one and the same.
I never once said we'd kick you're asses, I said that it wouldn't work and gave a couple of reasons against the really dumb ideas, like nuking us. Please stop putting words in my mouth. Unless I can have some ketchup to make them taste not quite so much like crap.

   

politically it probably be a useless move......
economicaly it would be a stupid move....
socialy it might be a dumb idea.....
colonialism not sure on what to say but hey what would be the point to annexing Canada anyways? "Goofy" as Rev stated

   

It seems to me as though Mr. Doomsday has major issue with us Canadians. That is his perogative. He is entitled to it. However, when this conversation turns to his rants about who'd get who's ass kicked: let me stretch a bit here, I* have to speak up. Why involve countries and people's. It is one of the easiest things to put others into harms way to achieve something, individually, one could never. Just look to George W. for an example. On a regular basis His highness is committing sons and daughters to their deaths while he sits, and has sit since birth, in the safety of his Surname. I would love to invite Miss doomsday to back his statements, and claims in person, where he could showcase his/her talent for conquering people. Of course I will look like the immature one here for inviting him to his own ass kicking party, but really if we cannot back our statements ourselves, then who are we to make them? I was a soldier, I am a fighter, I am a Canadian. I live in one of the first cities that would need to be overthrown by Americans but not the easiest i assure you. When you quote this Doomslady, get the whole fucking thing in, and not just the snippets you like. I will/would/want to whup your little or big ass. Whichever the case its all in good fun. Shit I'll even buy ya a beer (Canadian Beer) after I'm done. This is how Canadian do things. The American way involves throwing Innumerable amounts of desposable soldiers into situations that their leaders would never dream of. I have served with many of them. They (the soldiers) know of the resiliency and strength that an average Canadian carries. As I do they. Bring me your best game son, and I will show ya how its played. End of conversation. All else is just plain talking your way out of it and I dont listen to those whines. You asked a hypothetical question, I'm giving you a chance at a real answer.......Honey.

   

mr your talkin bout man for man....

say conventioal war...how many tanks you got ?.
planes, ships,apc, helecopters...ect ect....

ever play risk.....?

hell half the crap your forces have came from us....WE SPENT BILLIONS...IN R ND......NOW THAT THE SOVIET THREAT IS GONE[ YEAH RIGHT LIKE i BELIEVE THAT].....WHOEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD REALLY TRY TO INVADE YOU ..NEEDS HELP.....THEY ARE PARANOID.....AND MUST HATE AMERICA..........AS MUCH AS THEMSELVES.....

   

Some one has'nt read the whole thread. Your tanks don't mean shit when guerrilla tactics are involved. Like said before, the US does not have the sheer force to occupy the worlds second largest country.

I hate this American mentality of bigger = better. Tell me feeko, are all Americans like yourself? No. And that's why a majority of American's would protest a war with Canada.

And id like to see your tanks get around in BC. Im sure they would have a heck of a time

   

Oh, and for those of you arguing that America would kick Canadas ass...



Do you believe in the final victory?

   

The US hasn't even been able to defeat Iraq, for christ sake, Feeko. How would you fare trying to cover a massive amount of property with the vast majority of the world arming against you?

   

Why the hell do people keep bringing this up?

It's not 1804 people. America needs Canada as much as a person needs a second ass. (geographically speaking) Yes, I know it's beautiful but so is the U.S. We're fine with what we have and we should continue improving on it.

But, I must admit that since wars are not fought by single countries, and Canada is for the most part a British Territory, at the very least we would be fighting the British, Australian, and Canadian military. Sure, we could take the latter two on, but we have to admit the British military is right up there with our own.

...so in short we don't want canada, it would not serve any purpose strategically or politically.

   

Oh come on, Iraq isn't even a real war. Iraq is just a little conflict in which the United States is engaged in Nation building. I can't believe you would consider Iraq to be a war, and the US to be losing. I bet you haven't even been to Iraq, so you really can't have much of a opinion of them winning or losing. I know someone who went there to work and he hates how the media portrays it because he was there and he says the people are actually better off and happier now. You can call me a lier, but where do you get your information, the news on the tv which only shows protest and such. Hell, we could take every bad article of news from Canada such as the recent serial killer and your own protest against the US and make Canada out to be a rougue nation of American haters(although you people don't really come off as people who like Americans, so the latter might be true).

I honestly don't think that the entire world would come to Canada's side. I can see maybe some countries from the west such as France, Germany(maybe), and Britian, but I can't see Russia or China. Since when has Russia or China ever gone around helping out any country unless their own interest are at hand? Stop thinking Canada is the most important country in the world in which everyone will sacrifice their lifes for from the middle east to Asia.

   

It keeps coming up because we feel threatened, Abe. We have a lot of stuff we aren't using and your leader is a pretty scary cat.

   

You feel threatened? Haha, why are you people so paranoid? What democracy has the US attacked in the west to give you this paranoia. And they said that Americans lived in fear....

   

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